16 April 2007

New CBC "Blogger/Reporter" in town...

And she wants to know if I'm part of the International Zionist Conspiracy.

The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said... You seem to take the Israeli issue to heart. Are you Israeli? It could explain your reluctance to accept the Arab perspective, no matter how much you think it's fraudulent.
Am I Israeli?

I guess that's "reporter code" for, "are you one of them"..."are you a Jew?"

Because, apparently, in her world... only a racist Jew would be reluctant "to accept the Arab perspective".

I do have to confess, my best friend of twenty odd years was born Jewish, but alas... he's even less religious than I... and oh yeah, Ms. Cranky Pants, his family have been Canadians since the late 1800's.

Who is the Angry Reporter anyway?

From the single post she has made at her own blog thus far, you get a few hints...
I've been a news reporter for some 20 years for several news outlets, but mostly for a large Canadian public broadcaster whom I won't mention (duh!). I'm quite proud of what I do for a living.

I also hate conspiracy theorists and people who accuses us of having hidden agendas and systematic liberal biases.
You get a further whiff of her "character/agenda" from the dozen, that's right, twelve comments she has left so far at my post on the Media Vultures circling the bodies of dead Canadian soldiers at CFB Trenton.

Oh yeah, one last thing. If the Angry Reporter had taken a few moments to actually look at my previous blog entries... what is known in industry as "due diligence"... she would have seen that I am Scots/Irish and a failed Catholic.

She wouldn't have had to ask if I was "one of them", you know... "a Jew".

One of those "filthy conspiracy theorists" that she has to do battle with.

Which explains quite a few things about the CBC.

(note: all pronouns changed to "the feminine" as "Angry" has now felt compelled for some reason to bring my alleged gender bias into the exchange)

UPDATE: "Let the speculation begin"

From the comments...
Brian Lemon said...

Let the speculation begin . . .
Former CBC reporter - perhaps Radio Canada - as is bilingual.
No indication that it is a man, could be a woman.
Recent departure from CBC / RCI as a political reporter.
Quick Google search??
The Angry Reporter replies...
"PS, you say you're Scottish-Irish."

"Can I assume you're already drunk?"
Oh please, please, please Cranky... keep digging.

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37 comments:

BBS said...

He's been spreading the love at the Torch as well.

Canadi-anna said...

No one ever wonders if people are Arab/Muslim/Palestinian if they take the Palestinian side over the Israeli -- so why do they always figure that if you're onside with Israel, you must be Jewish.

You are so right. This guy just typifies what he pretends to deny.

Brian Lemon said...

Let the speculation begin . . .
Former CBC reporter - perhaps Radio Canada - as is bilingual.
No indication that it is a man, could be a woman.
Recent departure from CBC / RCI as a political reporter.
Quick Google search??
Jennifer Fry
http://www.cprn.com/en/people.cfm?person=614

Anonymous said...

Well, at least he/she is 'not being mean to you' - lol!

Did little muffin just fall to earth yesterday? And this is his/her first day on the internet?

It's all a conspiracy of the stupid i tell ya....

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon said... Well, at least he/she is 'not being mean to you' - lol!"

well, not especially mean... and what's a little racism among compadres, huh?

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The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

Neo-Conservative,

What began as a simple debate as to why bloggers and MSM can't reconcile has turned into a mud-slinging where you corrupted my best intentions in opening a debate. My question was honest, because I couldn't figure out why you lashed-out so viciously against anything that looks or sound arab.

If you'd attacked jews, I would have asked if you were Muslim. But hey, let the conspiracy theories take over!

I suppose this ends my contribution to your blog. Sorry if I was foolish enough to think you could debate honestly without getting personal.

PS, you say you're Scottish-Irish. Can I assume you're already drunk?

Neo Conservative said...

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"The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...My question was honest, because I couldn't figure out why you lashed-out so viciously against anything that looks or sound arab."

because only a despicable jew could "lash-out so viciously" right?

not like the "rest of us".

maybe you should have looked a little closer... what i'm attacking is the mindless, homicidal faction within islam that is savagely butchering jews, westerners and other muslims alike... on a daily basis.

there's a big difference... to me anyway.

"The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère also said...PS, you say you're Scottish-Irish. Can I assume you're already drunk?

hah, that's a good one, a real kneeslapper... now, if i had said i was black... would you have made a crack about watermelons?

i'm guess just lucky you're a professional... and not one of those damn racist conspiracy-nut bloggers.

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Mike said...

Angry's gone

Neo Conservative said...

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Mike said... Angry's gone

good thing i saved angry's web page for posterity, huh?

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The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

I'm trying to master HDML and JAVA at the same time, and I made a mess with my page. I'll rebuild, I'll be happy to be the whipping boy for what has to be the most dishonest blog I've ever seen. I can't let you get away with the dirt you're spreading about me.

For the record, I'm a woman, since it seems to matter at your end.

Neo Conservative said...

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"The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said... I'm trying to master HDML"

well, there's your problem... you might want to try mastering "HTML" instead... or just use the drag and drop blogger template... like the rest of us mortals.

btw, in case you've forgotten, there was only one post on your blog... and i can send that to you, if it helps with the rebuilding.

you also stated that i was "the most dishonest blog I've ever seen". if you reread our conversation, you will find i simply mirrored your "not too carefully chosen" words back at you... which is, i'm guessing... gonna leave a mark.

as for you being a woman... i believe there was already speculation along those lines in the comments above.

i trust that you're not simply being mean and, on top of previously implying that i was some kind of racist... are now calling me a misogynist as well.

because that's "just not fair".

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Alistair Macfarlane said...

"PS, you say you're Scottish-Irish. Can I assume you're already drunk?"

Nice......being Scottish,I'm tired of the Scots people being the only race you can make fun of with impunity.If I can find an article I'm thinking of,I'llpost it(something to do with Landry).

The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

I just had a tought, Neo,

I just heard the terrible tragedy in Blacksburgh, Virginia. 33 dead so far.

I think it's totally uncool for CNN, FOX, and all those other stations to even mention it, as police are still trying to notify the families of the victims.

This rush to throw this on the air, while parents of thousands of students now wonder if their sons/daughters are among the victims.

Your thoughts?

PS before you get your knickers in a twist, I'll cut and paste this message to the other blogs where I was taken to task for defending CTV over the Fife issue.

Canadi-anna said...

the angry reporter -- you are one snide piece of work. You've managed to offend just about everyone with whom you've come in contact and you've only been around a couple of days. For those who don't believe you're a member of the media, that should remove all doubt.

Your attempt to draw a parallel between what happened in Virginia and Bob's 'scoop' is both crass and exploitive, and also doesn't wash. Media is no longer the only source of information; news of a University shooting was bound to reach the public regardless of Fox or CNN -- not so the soldier deaths in Afghanistan. Fife could have held off -- it would take far less time to identify the two soldiers in question, than 50 odd victims of a sniper, some dead, some alive -- many without ID and most still lying at the scene.

BTW -- your remark about Scots/Irish is no less offensive because we're not considered an oppressed minority. If it was an attempt at humour, or to appear chummy, it has failed on many levels. And if it was serious -- awa an' git it up yie, ye stroppy cow.

Neo Conservative said...

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The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said... This rush to throw this on the air, while parents of thousands of students now wonder if their sons/daughters are among the victims. Your thoughts?"

thank you for your ongoing concern about my knickers, but i'm still good here.

to answer your question, i'm against sensationalising any human tragedy in the blind pursuit of ratings or sales.

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The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère also says "I think it's totally uncool for CNN, FOX, and all those other stations to even mention it"

i'm not sure what "totally uncool" means in this context... there's certainly a similar crass disregard for anything but increased visibility and profit, that you'd find at say, the cbc... but politically, if anything, the fox coverage in this case is similarly beneficial to the left... giving the gun control lobby yet another tragedy to yowl about.

but let's not confuse the largely left-leaning canuck mainstream media's obsession with making political hay out of the deaths of canadian soldiers... with fox's lurid profit-driven coverage of this tragic and unambiguously criminal act in the united states.

because it's apples and bananas as far as i'm concerned.

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The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

So you do agree that Fox and everyone else SHOULD have held-off reporting about the tragedy. Now I can understand your values. Unlike Canadi-Anna.

Sorry, I got a bottle of single-malt waiting...

The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

Canadi-Anna:

Neo-Con concluded that I was part of some anti-zionist conspiracy because I dared asking him if his was Jewish, in light of his intense interest for the Israeli issue.

It was a far-fetched accusation, so I used a similar logic to assume that maybe, if he's Irish, he COULD be drunk. Silly? Poor taste? You bet. Just like his accusation that I'm anti-semitic.

Hey, I'm married to a French-Canadian. You may actually conclude I'm a separatist too!

Do I offend people with my views? I sure hope so, given how I took Neo-Cons' bait on his own blog.

I'll be happy to get out of here if that's your choice. One-way debates are a lot easier after all.

Canadi-anna said...

the angry reporter --

You use two negative ethnic stereotypes (a person must be a Jew if they are passionate about Israel and Scots/Iris are drunks)and then take umbrage because people inferred a tinge of racism on your part -- you're almost gymnastic in your ability to twist words.

Your slur went beyond silly and poor taste because it defies logic. Neo Con drew his conclusions about you from your words -- you asked a question which likely would not have been asked of a person passionately defending the Arab side of the question. His opinion of you was not far-fetched as you'd like to believe. It derives from the inappropriateness of your question.

Your 'joke' on the other hand, doesn't flow from the conversation. That makes it rude and offensive, not just to the person at whom it was aimed, but also to those who share his ethnic background.

I draw no conclusions about you based on who you married, just on what you say.

You hope to have given offense, and some of us have stated that you have, but why would you ask my permission to stay or go? It's none of my business. Neo Con doesn't censor his commenters, but I guess as a member of the media, you're used to monologues rather than debate, so if you're uncomfortable with feedback it'll be up to you to turn tail and run. If you can't take the heat of debate, that's on you. Don't look to me for an excuse to turtle.

The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

Pas fort comme commentaire, Mme Canadiana. Vraiment pas fort!

If asking someone why he/she is so passionate about an issue can drive someone like youself to conclude racism or anti-semitism, I say you're way too politicaly correct to blog along conservative lines. You're starting to sound liberal. As in Liberal. As in Stéphane Dion.

I pity you. It must be painful for someone like youself to be trapped into an ideological maze, unable to get out and face other people with other views.

Get a life!

Neo Conservative said...

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"The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said... So you do agree that Fox and everyone else SHOULD have held-off reporting about the tragedy"

does that actually work for you?

you say whatever comes into your head and everybody just nods their agreement? it's what i've always suspected about the cbc.

here's what i actually said...

"but let's not confuse the largely left-leaning canuck mainstream media's obsession with making political hay out of the deaths of canadian soldiers... with fox's lurid profit-driven coverage of this tragic and unambiguously criminal act in the united states."

"because it's apples and bananas as far as i'm concerned."

see... i said "apples and bananas" instead of the usual "apples and oranges" to really emphasize that i felt they were two completely different things... but if it would help you understand a little better... i could go easy on the usage of idiom from this point forward.

anyway, enough about me.

let's recap and see if i understand what you've alleged to this point...

one... even though i didn't turn out to be a nasty jew... i'm still a racist.

two... in some indefinable way, the fact that you are actually a woman, makes me a misogynist.

three... i did a 180 degree turn, on, not sure what exactly... so apparently i am what, a coward... a hypocrite?


i gotta say angry... you are welcome to show up here anytime and make any silly-ass comments you please... i love the free, if sometimes illogical and convoluted, exchange of ideas.

it's really why i do this.

just one piece of advice...

you may wanna ease up on the single malt before your next visit.

because you're not making any sense.

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Canadi-anna said...

the angry reporter -- you didn't ask why NeoCon was so passionate about the issue -- you asked if he was Israeli -- there is a distinction. Odd that when rehashing information you have a penchant for paraphrase. When having a 'he said/she said' you shouldn't be telling what you meant to say only what you actually did say, and you shouldn't summarize unless you include the detail that instigated the controversy. It kinda matters. If you'd simply asked 'why', this post wouldn't be here.

Perhaps if you hadn't self-identified as a journalist, I would have dismissed the ignorance of the question, but given your work, you should have realized that that question, when discussing that issue, would raise all sorts of red flags.

Resorting to nasty remarks is hardly the hallmark of a great debater or a great mind. I'm sure you could do better than 'get a life' if you really tried.

The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

Neo-Con, what's your fave singe-malt? Hard to find in wine-loving Quebec. Sadly.

Neo Conservative said...

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"The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said... what's your fave singe-malt? Hard to find in wine-loving Quebec. Sadly."

afraid i'm not much of a drinker these days... maybe an occasional bottle of red with a medium rare steak fresh off the q.

in my misspent youth i sucked back my share of beer and yes... i did inhale.

conservatives aren't cardboard cutouts, you know.

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The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

I'm glad to know we're on the same page :-) I'm upset at the Conservatives because they're totally overcharging consumers with the price of Flin-Flon-produced pot!

I mean, $130 for an ounce? Hardly cheaper than what you get on St-Denis Street on a Saturday night!

Wonder Woman said...

Is this a mature adult? I've had less infantile arguments with my 7 year old.

She proclaims her goal is to try and reconcile between MSM and bloggers, but doesn't understand why derision and biased assumptions aren't working to do that. She just learned a valuable lesson about blogging -- don't pick fights with people who are smarter than you, who don't have an ombudsman to complain to.

She's likely just pissed that her kind don't have a monopoly on public opinion any longer.

Blazing Cat Fur said...

Hey this is fun but I say we all give Angry another shot at it. Lets not exhaust all our fun in one day.

Neo Conservative said...

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"I say we all give Angry another shot at it."

angry may have been 'punching above her weight' in this particular instance... but she's game, i'll give her that.

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jaycurrie said...

I'm always delighted when MSMers pop by the blogosphere under nom d'blogs.

What's with all the anonymity?

If the attempt is to reconcile MSM and the blogosphere - a doomed but worthy goal - actually saying who you are is a good first step.

The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

Jay,

You raise an interesting point. I could indeed say who I am, it woild make Brian Lemon happy.

The reason I don't, is that my identity doesn't really matter. I don't blog because I want to confront conservatives and lefties alike (I said before I'm more centrist/libertarian).

I'm a woman who earns a living as a journalist, and I don't have a loyalty to anyone except my profession. And I don't like how some of it plays out, which is why I feel that an anonymous blog is the perfect safety valve to express the daily irritants of my job.

Don't look for a conspiracy, there isn't one. Read what I wrote my my blog in the last couple of days, and you'll understand where I'm going.

As for Wonder Woman, I'm sorry if my views offend you. You speak of your truth, I speak of mine. Respect mine and I'll respect yours.

Ryan R said...

I think that many here are taking the wrong approach to having a former member of the mainstream media posting here.

We have an unique opportunity here to present unfiltered political perspectives - perspectives that I felt were certainly lacking in the Canadian media during the better part of the 90s to before the right was united - to a former member of the media, who may in the future be a member of the media.

Plus... has it occured to anyone else here that Angry Reporter might be a current member of the media in the process of doing a report on Conservative blogs (or blogs in general) for the CBC, or CTV? ;)

Aside from simply wanting good decorum and civil debate, another reason to not deride her too much is that it could come back to haunt us in the near future.

I'm glad that we have a former member of the media here. We should be thankful for that, however much we may, or may not, disagree with her.

It certainly speaks well to the growing importance of blogs.

Neo Conservative said...

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"ryan r said... It certainly speaks well to the growing importance of blogs."

ryan... agreed. although angry's somewhat clumsy first attempts to get out there and her obviously preconceived notions about conservatives... seem, well... less than professional.

if it's a setup... it's not very well executed.

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Anonymous said...

waaaaa.......stop being a cry baby. You want to blog.....deal with the BS and stop sounding like a whinnet lefty......some call a PC cop.....an report the mean man!!

The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

Ryan,

Thanks for your wisdom and invitation. I'm not working on a blog story, let alone a consevative one. However, Neo-Conservative thinks I should go away, as my views are considered incompatible with his desire to lash-out at the MsM on a one-way street.

Good luck, and please visit me. I try to update my blog a few times a week strictly on media-related issues.

Neo Conservative said...

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"The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said... Neo-Conservative thinks I should go away, as my views are considered incompatible with his"

oh angry... please show me where i said anything of the sort... you think people won't bother to read the exchange between us?

let me give you a direct quote... "i gotta say angry... you are welcome to show up here anytime and make any silly-ass comments you please... i love the free, if sometimes illogical and convoluted, exchange of ideas."

if you choose to run away and sulk... that's on you.

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The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said...

Make-up your mind, Neo-Con, because this is what you posted earlier on another thread...:



"As far as calling you names...I'm not trying to debate with you. I'm trying to get you to go away. I'm perfectly capable of debating with those who reasonably dissent with my views. Check out other comment threads here and on other blogs if you're interested in seeing those exchanges. But your first comment showed that you don't qualify for that level of respect."

Ranba Ral said...

I'm combining ideas from the last thread and this one so I only have to make one post. I appologize for the length caused by this.

Angry Reporter,

Bear in mind, I speak as an American conservative (a Federalist, if you want to get really technical).

A quick case study of why some of us see the MSM as having a leftward bias: The VA Tech shootings.

My University cable package is set up so that our big news stations are all sequential, so it's really easy to switch between them and compare coverage. We get BBC and CBC on our school's "international" channel, which rotates countries about every 12 hours. It was Mexican soaps day so I can't compare BBC/CBC coverage with that in the U.S. media. All of them but Fox News were advertising "Why we need to take all guns away from everyone" gun control specials within the hour of the main attack. Some of these did eventually change to specials debating the issue, but ultimately these also ended up being focused primarily on the need for more restrictions.

Add on to this that some of the reporters were talking about how the lapse of the Assault Weapons Ban is responsible for the shootings as part of their reports. They (wrongly and repeatedly) stated that it would have been impossible to buy an extended magazine during the ban. This was before we really knew that the guy had an ammo vest on and was using 2 pistols of different calibers. They just assumed one pistol with a single massive magazine. All but one (MSNBC, I believe) stopped once they found out it was multiple weapons and the guy had to reload a lot, but the initial reaction shows a pretty clear underlying bias.

Part of the problem with reporters -and this comes from watching them on TV, personal interaction with them, and seeing them working live- is that they usually refuse to aknowledge any bias, even to themselves. Then they go and do things like your "Are you Israeli?" question and are surprised when people see bias. If you were truly being unbiased you would have just said "Why do you support Israel?", instead of making the leap in logic that you did. As for asking a pro-Palastinian if they were Muslim; my experience with others in your profession makes me seriously doubt you would ask that.

To be unbiased, one does not automatically need to go into every detail of every side of an issue. But on issues boiling down into a dichotomy, the two major views should be represented equally. The media usually presents one side with only minor lip-service to the other. Usually this boils down to the moderate-liberal to liberal view getting the majority of the airtime/paper space and an "oh by the way, there's a group of people who don't agree" sentence somewhere toward the end.

Since it seems important to establish credentials: I'm German-Dutch-French-Scottish-Irish-English, with more German and Scotsman than the others. My drink of choice is warm mead, but it's a pain to get a good bottle of it where I live.

Neo Conservative said...

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"The Angry Reporter/Reporter en Colère said... Make-up your mind, Neo-Con, because this is what you posted earlier on another thread..."

sorry angry... you're wrong again.

point to the link where i said anything of the sort.

put up or shut up.

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