02 January 2010

Bonne Année

Lorsque de mauvaises choses arrivent aux gens inconscients...

"It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal."
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12 comments:

Anonymous said...

I would say there is no turning back for France, They Have Lost the war.

Rob C

Anonymous said...

My husband and teen children visited Versailles at night to see the special light show there this summer. Catching the last train to Paris with most of the rest of the spectators they were delayed for hours and shunted from one train to another. This was because immigrant young hooligans play a game of "run me over" with the public trains in the tunnels of the suburbs of Paris.

We learned that this happens quite often but it is not reported in the press.

The metro system is also now unsafe at night. France has lost control of its public transport.

Anon1152 said...

Um... Given the history of France, doesn't this mean that immigrants have assimilated? You've all heard La Marseillaise, right?

Neo Conservative said...

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"rob says... I would say there is no turning back for France, They Have Lost the war."

yup... they have indeed.

and this time, unlike 1914 & 1939... there's no bailing them out.

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Just being honest said...

What strikes me is the fact, that in the 5 or 6 stories I have read up to now about the New Year's "festivities", there is absolutely no mention as to who is burning the damn cars. Closest I've seen is the ever popular "disenfranchised youths", whatever the hell that means. And sadly, I agree with Rob C and Neo C. I would go even further and say Europe has lost the war.

Neo Conservative said...

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"jbh says... Closest I've seen is the ever popular "disenfranchised youths", whatever the hell that means."

euphemisms... the bread & butter of the demented left-o-sphere.

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Anon1152 said...

"Disenfranchised youths."

Can I scream "age-ism"?

When I see footage or pictures of protests in France, there are usually plenty of grown-ups.

If immigrants are protesting, even protesting violently, I think that means that they have successfully assimilated.

Though, I think unions are a major force behind many of those large protests that are so frequent in France... Which I doubt endears them [the protesters] to anyone here...

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon1152 says... that means that they have successfully assimilated."

lemme see... you burn up over a thousand cars in one night... and you've "successfully assimilated" into what?

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Anon1152 said...

Q:
"lemme see... you burn up over a thousand cars in one night... and you've "successfully assimilated" into what?"

A:
A violent french leftist protesting union member.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon1152 says... A violent french leftist protesting union member."

seriously? the carb-q links about burning thousands of cars weren't specific enough for you?

good grief, man... you're using pharmaceutical study aids... i'd suggest cutting the dosage in half.

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Anon1152 said...

Wouldn't pharmaceutical study aids cut down on procrastination? Which is what I'm doing here... What leads to that accusation, anyway?

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I'm not in favour of violence.
I'm not even much in favour of protesting... at least not personally...

My point was only that France is known for protests. Sometimes violent ones.

Take the first "Car-B-Q" post that comes up here
http://hallsofmacadamia.blogspot.com/search?q=car-b-q

It happened on Bastille Day celebrations. Bastille Day doesn't exactly commemorate a great moment of non-violence.

And often protests seem to be "worker" related.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=france+protest&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Which would explain the welfare state.

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My point was only that violent protests in France have more to do with France than with immigrants or Muslims. (Which I think was the implication).

In part, I have this opinion having encountered a Pew Study... I think it's this one:
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?PageID=836

I printed out the study a few months ago, but don't have the file I put it in nearby.

Anyway. The study was interesting. Muslims in France seem to be far more integrated/assimilated than in other countries, like, say, Britain (which is far more accommodating/"multicultural").

It is quite the paradox. Keep in mind that France is the place where you can't wear a hijab in public school. And Britain is the place where the Archbishop of Canterbury publicly mused about the need to make room for Sharia Law in great Britain.

If I had had the resources and expertise... I'd love to look into why Muslim immigrants to France are far more pro-France than Muslim immigrants to Britain... despite the fact that policy wise, you'd expect the opposite.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon1152 says... Muslims in France seem to be far more integrated/assimilated than in other countries"

i guess that's what's so great about this country... we're actually allowed, unlike so many of the societies in the middle east... to hold & publicly espouse differing opinions.

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