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Emperor Jean I... once again... takes swift & decisive action...
-- QUEBEC -- Premier Jean Charest has named a former cabinet minister who quit provincial politics as Quebec's new justice minister.Sigh... I remember democracy.
Jean-Marc Fournier, who until this week was working as an adviser to federal Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff, will replace Kathleen Weil.
Fournier, who does not have a seat in the legislature, has to win a byelection in a Montreal-area riding.
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just like when harper appointed michael fortier to his cabinet without a seat.minister of public works no less. he never did run for office. of course he didn't need to, harper appointed him to the senate. don't recall your post about that?
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nope... that was wrong too.
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except, you spend all your time swiping the liberals. Yet, nothing on the conservatives.
hmmm.
Michael Fortier ain't a senator no more - look it up.
"he never did run for office"
He ran in the 2008 election and lost. From the troll's favourite source, Wikipedia: "He lost as the Conservative candidate for the riding of Vaudreuil-Soulanges in the 2008 Canadian election.[2]"
Anything else, Fib-Grit?
oh and that makes Harper's appointment, all better. The fact remains, Harper appointed an unelected person. Period. And the electorate fixed that later now didn't they?
I find you conservative apologists rather funny. You ACTUALLY think, your party is better, and doesn't pull the same stunts the liberals are pulling or have pulled?
Wow.
Has a Conservative ever told a civil servant to help out his business partners or be fired?
Has a Conservative ever accepted $40 million in federal funds through kickback donations from their friends?
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hey jwkozak91... here's a tip... this little troll-boy isn't interested in a dialogue... he's posted dozens of these little flamers here just today to try jam up the comment threads.
try not to take the bait.
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yeah, nonny... because you say so.
you wanna rant & rave and call people silly names... take it on over to liblogs.
you wanna try speak seriously to the subject, maybe i'll let you join the conversation.
perhaps someday you'll figure it out.
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oh btw don't let neo lie about the commnet of mine he deleted. It was I thought, a reasonable reply to yours.
He's just a jackass liar is all.
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"nonny shrieks... He's just a jackass liar is all."
and "commnets" like that, my friend, is why you get deleted. is that how you usually talk to people?
seriously... do you get hit a lot?
sheesh... you guys do all the work for me.
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irony deprived libby screams... I do know a cowardly hypocrite when I see one."
well, libs... maybe you could just avoid mirrors altogether.
that might help.
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I think neo you likely had the best day ever. I mean, you leave anonymous posting on, and then, you go all furious when someone takes you up on it.
It was, kind of fun to watch you go off, now you can go for the sympathy thing, you know, oh that guy must be a crazy liberal, look what he did.
The truth is, you're just a fucking idiot, who left anonymous posting on, and made a bunch of stupid assed sarcastic nonsense entries, that I could make fun of.
But you need to get all drama queen about it. So, shut off anonymous commenting, and stop blubbering about it already k?
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"nonny whinges... you likely had the best day ever"
believe it or not, nonny... i actually feel kinda sorry for you... i mean 50 or 60 anonymous trolls in one afternoon... good gawd man.
you do see what's going on here, right?
hey, maybe you could go get your ged... or try meet some nice people down at the mall food court.
don't hide your light under a bushel is my advice.
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Post his IP address and I'll do a little digging, if he's using multiple IPs chances are he's the janitor at a high school with a computer lab as part of his cleaning lady duties. I can also help ID that nutjob.
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the thing is, rose... it isn't really that important... well, to me anyway.
the only reason i pointed it out specifically today, is that this silly little bunny has flooded me with 70 or 80 of these silly little love letters just today.
we'll blow through a hundred before the day is over is my guess.
it's funny though... instead of being embarrassed, little libby seems to be proud of his campaign.
i guess he's even dumber than i thought.
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I am now unamazed at the degree of ignorance Canadians have regarding the civic system. A cabinet minister is a member of the government. Am MP/MLA/MPP/MNA etc are members of the legislature.
Her Majesty may appoint ANYONE over the age of 18 to be a minister of the Crown (the minister must be old enough to sign contracts). He/she may adminster the Acts assigned to the minister without reference to the legislature EXCEPT when the minister's authority to spend money from the treasury lapses or is exhausted and, if the minister wishes the Acts amended. Then the minister must request more spending authority by presenting an appropriation bill for money or some other bill for changes to the statute to the legislature.
Nothing in the any Act states the minister must be a member of the legislature. They usualy are members as it makes it easier to ask and get money, but it is not required.
These rules came about in 1688 as part of the Glorious Revolution and are nothing new. Except to people who attended most public schools.
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"norm says... Nothing in the Act states the minister must be a member of the legislature."
so, in theory, norm... the whole cabinet could be personal appointees of the elected pm?
don't know how well that would go over with the public.
whaddaya think?
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First, the PM is not elected. He is appointed. The only people who voted for PMSH lived in Calgary South West. BTW, there are no statutes that require a PM to administer so the Crown does not need to appoint a PM (of course the GG will need to do all the work the PM does). In theory, the Crown could appoint you as PM and have me as the Minister of Defence and your girlfriend as Minister of Finance etc.
A good idea? No, as when the spending approriations end on March 31 of each year the appointed government may have some problems getting the legislature to appropriate more funds for the new fiscal year and if the government wants changes to any statutes they must first convince an MP/MPP/MLA to introduce the bill to amend the Act. At that time the legislature will extract all sorts of consessions before granting the government's requests. That was the idea behind money approriations lapsing at the end of the year. The Crown MUST recall Parliament at least once a year to get more cash.
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"norm says... no statutes that require a PM... appoint your girlfriend as Minister of Finance etc."
hmmm... not sure mrs neo would be too happy with that last one.
norm, i'm curious... have there been any historical examples of gross deviation from what we now see as customary behavior?
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Prior to the Glorious Revoltion, PM's and Ministers were seldom members of the H of C (House of Lords yes but NOT commoners). In Canada, Chretian appointed Pierre Pettigrew as a Minister (I believe it was intergovernmental affairs ie the constitution) and he was minister for several months before a by-election could be arranged for his election to the House. It did make his job difficult.
Why we like ministers to be members of the HofC is we want at least a veneer of demoncracy. Also, even in a safe seat, a person must have some appeal to regular folks to be elected. Pettigrew won the by-election and again in the next general election but was turfed from a safe Liberal Quebec seat in the second general election. He came across as the egg head he was and the voters finally said enough.
PM's have the double issue of a) convincing enough party members to let them lead the party and b) not being so out of touch a general electorate can't stand them. That's why Iggy is having a tough time. Only the blue bloods of Rosedale have elected him (as an MP). The average Liberal in east end Montreal, Fishing Cove NB or Tractor Rut, MB hasn't selected him as party leader and most likely would never do so.
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"norm says... we want at least a veneer of democracy."
so sad that we're willing to settle for that.
thanks for the backgrounders.
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