28 December 2009

Now, I'm just spitballin' here...

...but aren't the courts supposed to keep innocent people... rather than, say... convicted cocaine dealers... out of prison?

-- TORONTO -- The lanky, fast-talking street person had evaporated into the streets of downtown Toronto last July, after his arrest on cocaine-trafficking charges, and missed three consecutive court dates. Few judges would have considered taking a chance on him again.

“My client was very fortunate that the stars lined up for him,” Mr. Thibault's lawyer, Steven Dallal, said afterward. “His counterpart in an ordinary court would probably not have been released.”
So now we're skewing the legal system... based on a person's racial background?

Meanwhile... in other Planet Pinko fairy tales... the media once again reveals shocking "death squad" news...
A large swath of a Scarborough mall parking lot was cordoned off after a man was shot and killed by police outside a movie theatre Sunday night.
Oh man... Toronto cops just randomly execute people?

Wait, hang on a sec... there's a bit here at the end of the article...
There was also a report the man was seen in the parking lot with a gun before police were called.
Oh.


30 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Oh man... Toronto cops just randomly execute people?"

The article suggested no such thing. It said "Police shoot man at theatre". According to sources like, say, the police, that's exactly what happened.

-Anon1152

Neo Conservative said...

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so anon1152... doing a little trolling under multiple identities?

no more anonymous posting for you... get an actual id... or be deleted... your choice.

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Anon1152 said...

Wait... are you accusing me of leaving the first and second Anonymous comments under https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=31042855&postID=1359982693072754025

?

1. I'm not a card carrying member of the NDP. Or any party, for that matter. (I even once refused to sign up to join the NDP on the UofT Campus, which involved turning down a free hot dog. I will go hungry to maintain my integrity.

2... Seriously? Have I ever said anything remotely like that?** (I assume we are both referring to the monkey comment). I thought I made it clear that I did not want to make race or racism an issue, at least not without taking the time necessary to make it a meaningful discussion.

3.
Does the name/URL identity count? Or do I need to make a google account or something?


-Anon1152


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Anon1152 said...

Just for the record, that's not me either.
-Anon1152

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Neo Conservative said...

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"Anon1152 protests... Just for the record, that's not me either."

yeah... because you say so.

so, sorry... go get a proper identity before you comment here again.

otherwise, you're just another annoying little anonymous troll.

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Anon1152 said...

I can't believe I'm going through the trouble to do this.

As for me saying so... yes... I am who I say I am. That's not great proof... but I'd like to think it's more reliable than someone else saying I am who I do not say I am...

But I digress.

Is this satisfactory?

Neo Conservative said...

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yup... that works for now.

hey... how about you give me your opinion on your fellow anonymous commenter here?

hilarious, huh?

so, nonny... what kind of moron thinks he's accomplishing anything doing something like this?

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Anonymous said...

Anon 1152,
Who gives a shit? Neo's pretend,you're pretend,fuck me,I'm pretend.No real names, no real consequences. Just a another kind of chat room for the lonely and desperate.Neo plays tough guy when the real world he occupies isn't looking cuz in real life, he's a pussy. So am I, so are you. It's all pretend. Kate McMillan and Kathy Shaidle I respect, they don't hide away like the pussy that runs this place.

Anon1152 said...

Anonymous @114pm,

I can't blame anyone for not wanting their "real" identity to be revealed on the internet. There are people here who are more than "lonely and desperate"; they are downright crazy. And yes, perhaps I'm one of them.

Who someone "really is" (what they look like, where they live, where they work, who they know, etc) isn't as important to me as being sure that people can and do take some responsibility for their past comments when making present (and future) comments. It does make sense to want to ensure that the Anon1152 (or whoever) leaving comments today is the same Anon1152 (or whoever) leaving comments last week.

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Neo:

1. I'm still somewhat insulted. I can only countenance being called a troll by someone who's seen me under my bridge.

2. I hope that your impersonator is as harmless as you suggest. It seems too much like phishing for me not to worry just a bit.

-Anon1152

2.

Anon1152 said...

Anyway... in the vain hope of bringing the conversation back to something more substantive... I'll say what I was going to say earlier:

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Neo said: "So now we're skewing the legal system... based on a person's racial background?"
Did we read the same article? A couple of passages struck me.

1. "The outcome for Mr. Thibault was an exception."

and,

2. "Aboriginals amount to fewer than 4 per cent of the Canadian population, yet accounted for 24 per cent of those admitted to provincial or federal custody in 2006-2007 – up from 21 per cent the previous year."

Allow me to anticipate and respond to a possible objection: If more people of group X commit crimes than people of group Y, why should we be concerned when a greater percentage of group X end up in jail than group Y? Isn't that fair? Isn't that the way the system is supposed to work?"

The answer is found in the next sentence: "In Ontario, twice as many aboriginal youth are being jailed as non-aboriginal youth who commit the same offence."

That bears repeating, with added emphasis: "In Ontario, TWICE AS MANY ABORIGINAL YOUTH are being JAILED as NON-ABORIGINAL YOUTH who commit the SAME OFFENCE."

Now, if

a) the treatment Mr. Thibault received is "the exception"; and,

b) the SAME OFFENCE is TWICE as likely to lead to an aboriginal youth being sent to prison, (compared to a non-Aboriginal youth committing the SAME offence)...doesn't that suggest that the legal system has been (and continues to be) skewed along racial lines, to the detriment of aboriginal Canadians?

-Anon1152

Neo Conservative said...

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another anonymous troll whines... Who gives a shit? Neo's pretend,you're pretend,fuck me,I'm pretend."

you crack me up, nonny. see, there's a big difference between anonymous & pseudonymous.

i have been here, every day for over 3 years. i've provided you with an email address and these comments.

you and your little squirrels know exactly where to find me... and you do... DAILY.

now you're spoofing my identity & forging my blog?

where exactly do i find your cowardly, dishonest little know-nothing ass in the millions of other vexatious trolls?

and hey... please, please, please... tell me again about being tough.

simply pathetic.

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Neo Conservative said...

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hmmm... let's check today's headlines, shall we?

" -- WINNIPEG -- A 12-year-old boy has been charged in the stabbing death of a 14-year-old girl in Oxford House First Nation, RCMP said yesterday.

RCMP identified the girl as Marilyn Alicia Agnes Munroe (known as Molly), a Grade 9 student at Oxford House's high school.

Oxford House, home to about 1,900 people, is about 950 km northeast of Winnipeg.


so... systemic racism... or epic cultural fail?

i guess all we need is less prison... more sweat lodge, huh?

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Anon1152 said...

Individual cases (at least on their own) tell us nothing about "systemic racism".

I didn't say anything in favour of alternative courts , second chances, lighter sentences, sweat lodges, etc.

All I did in my previous comment was quote the article to which you made reference.

You suggested that the single case mentioned (as an exception to the rule) meant that aboriginal Canadians were, as a rule, treated more favourably than non-aboriginal Canadians.

The same article said that aboriginal youth are twice as likely to go to prison for committing the same crime as non-aboriginal youth.

You made a claim/suggestion, and supported it with evidence that directly contradicted your claim/suggestion.

At least, that was my argument. (Which you haven't exactly addressed).

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon1152 says... aboriginal Canadians were, as a rule, treated more favourably than non-aboriginal Canadians."

call me wacky, my friend... but you murder somebody... your punishment shouldn't consist, in the main... of an affirmation of your cultural background.

p.s. -- what sort of punishment do you think a person deserves for killing their own children?

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Anon1152 said...

"call me wacky, my friend... but you murder somebody... your punishment shouldn't consist, in the main... of an affirmation of your cultural background."

What have I said that suggests I disagree with that?

I get the sense we're talking past each other.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon1152 says... What have I said that suggests I disagree with that?"

yup... forgive me. perhaps we are less opposed in certain aspects than i have assumed.

think of it as commentary directed at the leftospere in general.

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Anon1152 said...

Thank you.
All is forgiven.
And it is good (for me) to be mindful of what I'm saying, what I'm not saying, what I'm implying, etc.

Neo Conservative said...

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anon1152... mrs neo has taken a shine to you... or at least your commentary... she suspects you are a scholar, or have a scholarly background?

y/n?

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Anon1152 said...

A scholar?
I want to say yes.
But would probably be flattering myself.
Nevertheless, please thank Mrs. Neo for me.
I am a grad student...
Does it show?

mahmood said...

Neo, out of respect for mrs. neo I'm biting down hard on my tongue.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon1152 says... I am a grad student... Does it show?"

mrs n picked it up fairly early on. kind of a been there, done that kinda deal.

sometimes, because i have so many commenters simply trying to jam up up the discussion threads rather than actually initiate a conversation... i'm a little on the muscle.

mrs neo's the one who pointed out you were, for the most part, actually engaging on a fairly rational level.

my initial response to your comment @11:09 above, which came in hot on the heels of some idiotic troll in another thread by my biggest fan, "liberal supporter"... should have been to point out that the headine in the toronto sun, in the interest of fairness, should have read... "toronto police confront, shoot armed man at theatre".

instead... to counter the paper's "man bites dog sensationalism"... i went with hyperbole, a legitimate but somewhat in-your-face literary device... which obviously then got your back up.

doesn't take that much to get things stirred up does it?

of course... the ten immediately subsequent comments (and the forging of my blog and linking to a porn website) by little libby were designed to sabotage any actual conversation we might have had here.

and that my friend is where we stand here.

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Anon1152 said...

- "mrs n picked it up fairly early on. kind of a been there, done that kinda deal." Interesting. May I ask what she and/or you studied?

- I try to be rational. I find it helps since, more often than not, I will disagree with just about everyone. At least on some level.

- Can certainly understand why you'd be "on the muscle" given the comments, forged website, etc.

- Happy new year!

-Anon1152.