26 September 2008

Toronto Police Chief sacked...

...apparently replaced by Miss Manners...

"There are some young men who are exchanging gunfire, sometimes in very public places and putting a lot of people at risk, so naturally this is of concern to us."
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FROM THE COMMENTS:
"Miss Manners wouldn't be so mealy-mouthed."
Damn... she's got me there.

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25 comments:

djxtreme said...

Ok. The article talks about the chief talking about gangs, youth crime. Where is anything about him being fired? What gives with the title of this?

AtlanticJim said...

Ummm take a step back and re-read it as an entire post dj.

Means that the Chief must have been fired because it was Miss Manners giving that statement.....

djxtreme said...

So.... You think his comments sound like "miss manners" and not what you wanted to hear from him?

AtlanticJim said...

Well I really don't have a dog in this fight, but since you asked, no, that is just a TAD timid coming the Chief of Police for the largest city in the country when talking about running gun battles in his city.

Are you going to tell me that that statement gives you a warm fuzzy feeling that the problem is even close to being properly addressed? He's concerned? After that he ought to be unemployed.

Frances said...

Miss Manners wouldn't be so mealy-mouthed.

djxtreme said...

Well, I don't live in Toronto. And you have the leafs, and mostly vote Liberal. So you have a lot of problems. The top cop not sounding scared and saying they are working on it sounds reasonable. Perhaps if you actually wanted to DO something about it like "stiffer penalties" and stop treating criminals like babies you might get some where.

Neo Conservative said...

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"Frances said... Miss Manners wouldn't be so mealy-mouthed."

you know what, frances... you're right... i've actually done miss manners a bit of a disservice here.

the thing is, to me..."young men exchanging gunfire" (gifts are exchanged... gunfire is directed) sounds a little like something that might take place at a school christmas party.

see... what actually happens... is that metal projectiles traveling at roughly a thousand feet per second... tear through human flesh... very often splattering blood, hair and teeth all over anything, or anyone in a 5 meter radius.

so yeah, djxtreme... call me wacky... but i just found chief blair a tad on the prissy side of the all too violent, bloody events.

you, of course, are free to dress it up any way you want... i'm gonna stick with reality.

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djxtreme said...

I see you ignored everything I said. So STOP voting Liberal and giving criminals a break! Support Harper and his crime bill and start to try to change things.

Neo Conservative said...

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"djxtreme says... So STOP voting Liberal and giving criminals a break!"

hmmm, tell me my friend... do you actually read anything i write?

or is this just a dyslexia thing?

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djxtreme said...

My comments mostly directed at those in T.O that are having these issues(and causing them). As for you..grins...as a matter of fact I do...bro..must suck to be a speck of blue in a sea of red.

The Mayor said...

But are you willing to confirm right here and now, to the world, with no uncertainty, thay you, Neo Con, are a Conservative and not a liberal?

djxtreme said...

the mayor? Shit you got a lot of nerve posting here. Might do Ontario a favour and offer yourself as a "hostage" to all the gangs you "enable" in your city. UNless of course you're not the "mayor" but just like the name.

djxtreme said...

the mayor.oh, and in answer to your question. "In my opinion" NeoCon must be a conservative because he thinks and speaks with depth, and common sense. But thats just my opinion. And you may quote me on that.

JA Goneaux said...

Neo: I know quite a few Toronto cops, including a homicide detective, a plain clothes constable (back in the "bag" as a patrol man), and a sergeant, and the one thing they always say to me when I bring up the "politics": just let me do my job.

In short: the rank and file don't care who has all the "pigeon crap" on their shoulders, i.e., epaulets. Just stop the FIDO thinking...

Neo Conservative said...

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the line cops must just be laughin' their shorts off when they hear this politically correct argle-bargle rainin' down from on high.

but jag is right... these guys just wanna do the job... nail the scummers to the wall... and get home safe to their families.

thing is... once you get above a certain rank, you're not a copper anymore... you're a politician... like bill blair.

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djxtreme said...

every cog in the wheel serves a purpose. Some better than others. But without the upper "shoulders" to catch all the poop and get more money. The guess in the trenches cant do as well as they might. Just a thought Neo.

djxtreme said...

correction...guess=guys

Neo Conservative said...

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yup... i hear ya.

i wasn't saying blair wasn't a necessary part of the machine... just that i, and i suspect, about 5000 of his employees... wish he didn't have to kowtow so much to the gods of political correctness.

i mean, "young men exchanging gunfire"... wtf is that? more to the point, how many scotches ya figure it takes to wash that shitty tang outta yer mouth?

here's a thought... two simple words... "homicidal thugs".

anybody got a problem with that?

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langmann said...

I think it is time to send those young men to their rooms. Preferably without supper.

Or a chance to reload.

djxtreme said...

You will get no argument from me on the "homicidal thugs" comment. However in this day and age where the Liberals have turned the Justice system in to a daycare for the dregs of society, one has to know how to get what he wants without pissing off the masses. Using that language in the media or in public would make him sound like an "angry man with a gun looking for revenge". Something we all feel like needs to be done sometimes. But, won't win any points from the public or funding sources. Until the mood changes from "try and change them" to "throw away the key" it's a difficult game to be playing, and peoples lives are in the balance. Once again, thank the left.

Neo Conservative said...

"djxtreme says... Until the mood changes from 'try and change them' to 'throw away the key'"

see... that's where you lose me.

if you agree we're dealing with homicidal thugs here... the only thing we should be thinking about "changing"... is their horoscopes.

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djxtreme said...

Currently the way things are, thanks to Liberals the young offenders act and the judicial system in general is geared towards rehabilitation and "soft" punishment. Hence the "try to change them" comment. Under PMSH that will change to stiffer penalties and a "throw away the key" policy for repeat offenders. Basically Liberals wanna coddle criminals, CPC says you do a crime you're gonna do time, period. Cops can arrest all the criminals on the street, but if the judges and current Liberal system puts them basically right back out what good is it?

Anonymous said...

"Homicidal thugs"?? Is that the best you can do?

Really, boys and girls, now you're both turning into Miss Manners, too. Could you be more specific with your descriptive language. You have the makings of a Toronto Star reporter when describing a suspect as, ....oh, a male between 20 and 25 yrs, about 6 ft. tall, 175 lbs, wearing a certain clothing....while the reader is saying "yes, yes, is there anything else you'd like to add to that description?"

First, the culprits are described by as "young men".... then you went a step further with your "homicidal thugs" condemnation. Better, but you still haven't zeroed in yet.

Let me help you out with this LINK.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... Let me help you out with this LINK."

so nonny... homicidal thugs doesn't do it for you, huh? is there actually something else you'd like to say here?

you know... without sending people off to wikipedia or wherever?

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djxtreme said...

The immigration rate and crime rates are indeed related, and I have spoken of this many times. Yes ANon, so what's your point?