30 December 2007

Leftosphere loses its mind...

Over hiring of conservative columnist...

The New York Times has hired one of its most virulent critics, prominent right-wing pundit William Kristol, as a columnist.

Times' editorial page editor Andy Rosenthal defended Kristol's hiring in an interview with politico.com, criticizing liberal bloggers who have been up in arms over the move.

"The idea that The New York Times is giving voice to a guy who is a serious, respected conservative intellectual — and somehow that's a bad thing … how intolerant is that?" said Rosenthal.
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FROM THE COMMENTS:

My newest fan Sparky is really anxious to get his message out... so here it is...
"I just wanted you to state that you're a lying, ignorant prick with no moral certitude whatsoever. Hell, I was even meeting you 'in the middle' by changing your demonstrably false claim to a more truthful one..."
Never let it be said the Halls aren't about free speech.

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UPDATE: 2 Jan 2008 - Sparky's back with another essay

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42 comments:

Crazymamma said...

The Lefts tolerance can only tolerate what it can tolerate and that would be complete and absolute swallowing of all their complete bull twaddle. And that folks just isn't our way now is it?

GDW said...

Personally, I still miss William Safire; but good for The New York Times, although it's worth noting that the contract is only for a year. But I noticed last week that Thomas L. Friedman announced that he was skedaddling until April to write a book, which turned out to be just a few days ahead of Kristol's hiring. Now, if I were a conspiratorially minded lefty, I would consider that a very ominous coincidence.

Neo Conservative said...

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it's always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments here in the blogosphere.

take a look at rabble, or liblogs... if you're not willing to sit there and groom the other chimps... you're banished.

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Anonymous said...

Dogmatic liberalism will still rule the NYT, like so many other papers, but it's so boring and pedestrian that even dogmatic liberals have no need to buy those papers, everyone already knows what they're gonna say.

Sparky said...

Hey neo--
You know better than that--'always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments'.
How about you speak some little truths there, buddy?
I'd even agree to a slight rephrase--'always the lunatic bloggers (both left and right, and even inbetween) who are willing to censor and delete comments'
Because, as you yourself have noticed, the 'raving right' are just as prone (or moreso from what I've seen) to delete/lock down comments.
So let's not be disingenuous, shall we?

Nixon's Ghost said...

fucking loonie lefties never know where they stand on anything until godzillary tells them what to think.

I think we should round them all up for reeducation. Maybe we can send them to iraq. (or hopefully iran... that is going to be an awesome way)

Neo Conservative said...

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"sparky tries one on... as you yourself have noticed, the 'raving right' are just as prone"

geez, sparky... what i actually said here was, "it's always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments here in the blogosphere."

where exactly, except apparently in your revisionist, leftbot cerebellum... have i ever said otherwise?

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Neo Conservative said...

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"Nixon's Ghost said... fucking loonie lefties"

nixie aka kevron's little brother... if you imagine for even a second that wiping your own shit all over the walls here... does anything more than expose your apparent lack of purpose and communication skills, you are sadly mistaken.

i could simply act as most of your progressive pals would do... and delete this nonsense as it comes in, but hey little boy, knock yourself out... you underline every point i have ever made about the lost, illiterate left.

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Anonymous said...

Boy - such intelligent, thought-out comments here.

The fact that Krystol has been wrong on everything doesn't bother you?

Booga, booga, boo - we have a democracy which includes different political stripes.....oooooo, ahhhh, imagine being allowed to have a different opinion - not in neo-conservative fascist land. Not at all.

The leftists tolerate much more than conservatives do - that's a fact you can't ignore.

In fact, you people citicize them for being "too tolerant" - make up you boxed in minds.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon postulates... such intelligent, thought-out comments here"

yup... unlike your inspirational and erudite, "Booga, booga, boo".

thanks for sharing, professor.

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Sparky said...

neo's grasp of the english language is as lacking as his famed "rebuttal sKiLlZo0rs!!!oneeleventyone!!!11!"

If you don't know the difference between 'noted' and 'noticed', then get yourself a dictionary.

You've noticed your fellow raving righties deleting comments and/or suspending commenting and/or throwing up 'comment moderation', or am I giving you waaay too much credit for reading comprehension--
http://therightitswhereitsat.blogspot.com/2007/12/cowardness-of-canadian-cynic-left-wing.html

(I think I just answered it right there--giving neo too much credit for having basic language skills)

So, again for those of you that are obtuse and addleminded--the truer axiom here is that it's "always the lunatic bloggers (both left and right, and even inbetween) who are willing to censor and delete comments"

See, neo (and others)--that's what we call 'showing proofs' for the points that we posit.

Another fundamental axiom is that neo deliberately obfuscates to score cheap (and disingenuous) political points, 'cause I don't see too much in the form of 'proofs' for his assertions.

Sparky said...

Furthermore, neo, basic reading comprehension skills 101--

In which, starting here--

Hey neo--
You know better than that--'always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments'.


I actually quote you

So you're little tirade--

geez, sparky... what i actually said here was, "it's always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments here in the blogosphere."

where exactly, except apparently in your revisionist, leftbot cerebellum... have i ever said otherwise?


is completely idiotic. Show me the revisionism, jackass.

Oh, you mean this bit?--
I'd even agree to a slight rephrase--'always the lunatic bloggers (both left and right, and even inbetween) who are willing to censor and delete comments'

See, again comprehension 101--this is where I take your demonstrably faulty premise (shown in this very thread in my previous comment) and attempt to make it 'less faulty'.

See, that's what some of us like to call, "discerning the truth"--a personality quirk of mine that's so far outside of your experience (again, as demonstrably shown).

Revisionistic? No.

Disingenuous on your part--absolutely.

You have but to look at your own comment to find a perfect example of your own hypocrisy. Yipping about the 'lunatic left' and censorship. I know that when I want my fill of "echo chamber mentality", I need not look beyond the BT's.

Anonymous said...

Wow, nice flame war you got going. Keep at it. Don't let me stop you. I'll just get my 2 cents in and then move along.

I rarely give a shit what the newspapers say anymore. They've become so shrill, arrogant and overwhelmingly left wing there is simply no point in paying attention.

As far as reading columnists, I don't. Some time ago I tipped over the edge of frustration. I got completely SICK of hearing the valueless opinion of some overbearing elitist dick simply because some equally overbearing editor decided to hang some invented honorific on him or her.

Example: John Doe is a noted middle east expert and he has this to say. . ..

No thanks. I'm too busy with other things to listen to petulant axe grinding.

Even the so called hard news (the little that there is) is becoming far too opinion oriented to pay attention to.

If the new appears to affect me directly, (ie: the weather, local news - non political) then I pay close attention. Otherwise screw it.

KEvron said...

"it's always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments here in the blogosphere"

lol!

KEvron

KEvron said...

"nixie aka kevron's little brother"

paranoid much? lol!

KEvron

Neo Conservative said...

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"sparky mumbles... famed "rebuttal sKiLlZo0rs!!!oneeleventyone!!!11!"

sure, sparkle-boy... we've all got a lot to learn from you and lol kevron.

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Anonymous said...

Donkey nipples!!! Piss! Piss out my ass!!!! Curdled siamese cat sperm!!!

Censor that dumbass.

syncrodox said...

Wow.

Good stuff you guyz....now move up a thread if credibility is an issue.

Syncro

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... Piss! Piss out my ass!!!!"

oh, look who's here... canadian cecilia herself!

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Sparky said...

Do you even know how to refute an assertion properly?

Can you make a coherent arguement and back it up with any fact finding at all.

It's not me you need lessons from, neo--the truth always speaks for itself. And yet, here you are--20 comments later after this little demonstrably false tirade of yours and yet you haven't even backed up one of your assetions.

C'mon--one more with the casually dismissing the truth, neo. That makes you look oh so bright in the debate arena...

Anonymous said...

Holy Sparky, now I'm no FBI profiler.... but correct me if I'm wrong.
You live in your mom's basement, and there's lots of half eaten peanut butter sandwiches under your sofa-bed..... and , wait for it,,, wait , wait , wait,,, your single!!!!!!!

How'd I do ?

Neo Conservative said...

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"sparkles sputters... demonstrably false tirade of yours and yet you haven't even backed up one of your assetions(sic)."

well, glitterboy... i don't know what impresses me more... your all-consuming, 2 o'clock in the morning passion to pursue this weighty matter... or your desire to pass along those essential "comprehension skills 101".

in any case, the next time i run across times editor andy rosenthal... i'll be sure to pass along your words of wisdom.

you might wanna go to bed and get some sleep now... that oughta take the edge off things a little.

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Sparky said...

Thanks for the refutations, neo! Wow! I can see your point totally now! Your facetiousness and vacuous use of non-facts sure showed me.
Oh, and here's another item to add to your faulty premise--

http://mesopotamiawest.blogspot.com/2008/01/censorship-and-victory-propaganda-and.html

In which we read--
My recent post criticizing the use of Canadian war dead by the media as a disguised method of attacking the Government drew a number of predictable attacks by leftist trolls here at Blogging Tories. I've deleted most...

He justifies these deletions by invoking WWII--
The writer is obviously unaware that Canada had censorship in the Second World War precisely in order to help win it and preserve free speech

Shorter--we censor to preserve freedom!

Oh but wait! Who is this evil lefty blogger? A memeber of the Blogging Tories??

Neo! You told us that it's always the lunatic lefties that delete comments!!

As for the 'witty' 2 a.m. slam (as if I ever have to justify anything to you and your obtuse and addleminded sycophants)--it's when I got home from New Years Eve at a frieds place, jackass.

And once again goes to show that you (and that 'anon' commenter) couldn't debate your way out of a cardboard box. Want to go with less of the ad hominem attacks and actually deal with your demonstrably wrong points?

'Cause the rest of us are still waiting for *any* proof of your inept assertions.

Neo Conservative said...

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"sparkles roars... 'Cause the rest of us are still waiting for *any* proof of your inept assertions."

oh, sparkly, you're priceless... you sound like the scummy hype who just go caught by the local beat cop, lighting up his last rock... "prove it, prove it..."

the day i feel obligated to respond to your loony, incoherent freakout du jour is the day i hang up my keyboard.

but hey... thanks for your, uh... input.

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Anonymous said...

shit,, mom must have forgot to cut the crusts off again.... he's cranky.

Sparky said...

Pretty much what I expected from you, neo.
I just wanted you to state that you're a lying, ignorant prick with no moral certitude whatsoever.
That's not revisionistic, btw--that's how any sane person would interpret your inane diatribe here.
You've never had to prove anything to me--you've just had to back up any claim that you've made here. You didn't.
Hell, I was even meeting you 'in the middle' by changing your demonstrably false claim to a more truthful one--that it's the loonies on both sides that are willing to delete comments. You weren't even willing to go that far. Yep--you go right ahead and stay inside your little echo chamber.
And your sycophantic anon commenter with the ad hominem--icing on the proverbial cake. It's so much easier to score cheap points by making fun of the messenger instead of actually dealing with the problem. Nicely done all around.
When you guys grow up and hit that wall of reality, please let me know. I'll do what I can to help ease you into civil society. I'll start with the reading comprehension for y'all and then we'll tackle how to form a coherent 'talking point'--backed up with proofs and examples.

Neo Conservative said...

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"sparkly spews... I just wanted you to state that you're a lying, ignorant prick with no moral certitude whatsoever. And your sycophantic anon commenter with the ad hominem -- icing on the proverbial cake."

you self-righteous leftbots just crack me up... ad hominem indeed.

but congrats, sparks... i updated the main post... just for you.

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Sparky said...

You're so sweet! Now how 'bout some updates and changes on your faulty suppositions?
Or are you just going to continue your obfuscations?

Sparky said...

Moreover, since you focused on the ad hominem--every single reply of yours was an inane ad hominem--
I was just 'playing to your audience'. You obviously know what your readers want more than I.
So now, after a bunch of commetns from me, you finally get your money quote. How about you post your idiotic ad hominems on the front page while you're at it?
Probably not enough room on the front page.

Neo Conservative said...

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sparkles asks... how 'bout some updates and changes"

nah... i'm good.

but please... feel free to share more of that angry leftbot argle-bargle... it kinda lightens things up around here.

you just have another beer... and come back and try again.

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Sparky said...

Shorter neo--
poke... poke... poke... poke... poke... poke... poke... poke... poke... poke...
any sane person--
Stop that, pinhead.
neo--
Didya see that!?!?! Those leftbots are nothing but angry ne'er-do-wellers!!! I'm putting this on my front page!!!!one!!!11!
any sane person--

I'm still waiting for you to try to justify and/or back up any of your assertions in this thread.
Thankfully, however, I don't seem to derive the gleeful joy out of propagating falsehoods that you apparently do.

ad hominem--
1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.


Lets see now (right back at the beginning)--
it's always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments here in the blogosphere.

take a look at rabble, or liblogs... if you're not willing to sit there and groom the other chimps... you're banished.


There's your appealing to special interests/emotions and attacking character. Furthermore, no proof regarding the assertion.

where exactly, except apparently in your revisionist, leftbot cerebellum... have i ever said otherwise?

more attacking character and flagrantly misinterpreting what was written to score cheap points.

sure, sparkle-boy... we've all got a lot to learn from you and lol kevron.

Casually dismissing rebuttals with no substance at all.

well, glitterboy... i don't know what impresses me more... your all-consuming, 2 o'clock in the morning passion to pursue this weighty matter... or your desire to pass along those essential "comprehension skills 101".
in any case, the next time i run across times editor andy rosenthal... i'll be sure to pass along your words of wisdom.
you might wanna go to bed and get some sleep now... that oughta take the edge off things a little.


Nothing there at all but ad hominem--no issues addressed, no clarifications and/or retractions made--just "pick on the messenger".

Oh, the pièce de ré·sis·tance--

oh, sparkly, you're priceless... you sound like the scummy hype who just go caught by the local beat cop, lighting up his last rock... "prove it, prove it..."
the day i feel obligated to respond to your loony, incoherent freakout du jour is the day i hang up my keyboard.
but hey... thanks for your, uh... input.


The epitome of ad hominem--alluding that it's 'the other guy' who's guilty of something. Nice!

Not once did you even remotely address your faulty talking point. Instead, you used ad hominem throughout--attack the messenger.


And then we have--

you self-righteous leftbots just crack me up... ad hominem indeed.

but congrats, sparks... i updated the main post... just for you.


See, it's not ad hominem if you can prove your assertions. What was mine?

that you're a lying, ignorant prick with no moral certitude whatsoever.

Lie--
1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.


So neo lying--proven

Ignorant--
1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.


neo being ignorant (deliberately or not)--proven!

Moral--
1. Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character
2. Teaching or exhibiting goodness or correctness of character and behavior
3. Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior


neo's lack of morals--proven!

Prick--
7. Vulgar Slang A person regarded as highly unpleasant, especially a male.

neo being a prick? Proven!

So where was my ad hominem?

Once again you show your complete disregard for truth. Try answering the issues, neo. These games you continue play only show us how you get your jollies by scoring cheap points with no substance to back them up.

Castro's ghost said...

Sparky's droning on about something or other and it's gold, pure gold...go sparky go...

Neo Conservative said...

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"castro's ghost says... Sparky's droning on about something or other..."

you've gotta love the mopes who come onto me like the blog is "the new england journal of medicine"... or sworn testimony at a murder trial.

the best part is when you get an essay like this... telling you, in painful, endless detail... how irrelevant you are and how much they don't care.

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Anonymous said...

Anyone find the title for this post, as irononic as I do?
The trip from Sparky to Spooky wasn't exactly a pilgrimage.

Dang, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at one of this guy's Dungeons and Dragons marathons............

And Spark-man,, if you use the word Ad Hominem any more,, your gonna have to download a licenced version. WTF?

Sparky said...

Ohhh, the bit I really like is the revisionism of neo when he stated--
the best part is when you get an essay like this... telling you, in painful, endless detail... how irrelevant you are and how much they don't care.

Once again showing how neo isn't at all interested in truth.

Try another line, neo. This one isn't getting you anywhere outside your little sycophantic echo chamber.

How 'bout throw some truth in there while you're at it.

Or is that expecting too much from you?

Neo Conservative said...

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sparkles once again whinges... your little sycophantic echo chamber"

sure thing, your glitteryness... let's recap...

let's not be disingenuous, shall we?

neo deliberately obfuscates to score cheap (and disingenuous) political points

is completely idiotic. Show me the revisionism, jackass.

Disingenuous on your part -- absolutely.

his little demonstrably false tirade of yours

Your facetiousness and vacuous use of non-facts

the rest of us are still waiting for *any* proof

lying, ignorant prick with no moral certitude

just going to continue your obfuscations?

your idiotic ad hominems

the gleeful joy out of propagating falsehoods

neo being a prick? Proven!

your little sycophantic echo chamber.


hello... helloooo... helloooooo...

hey sparks... you do realise that 30 percent of the comments here... are your hysterical serial freakouts.

do you even remember what the original post was about?

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Sparky said...

So once more with the obfuscating cute rebuttals that we've come to expect.

Hey neo--
You know better than that--'always the lunatic left who are willing to censor and delete comments'.
How about you speak some little truths there, buddy?
I'd even agree to a slight rephrase--'always the lunatic bloggers (both left and right, and even inbetween) who are willing to censor and delete comments'
Because, as you yourself have noticed, the 'raving right' are just as prone (or moreso from what I've seen) to delete/lock down comments.
So let's not be disingenuous, shall we?


Which brings us back to the beginning. See, again this is where the reading comprehension comes in--you didn't addressed the points made. And look, you still haven't.

I offered no less than 2 proofs right from your BT blogroll that delete comments and censor posts, thus showing your supposition was patently false and should be updated.

So again neo, do you know what you're talking about? If so, want to show a little of it here? Every comment of mine (that you loved so much you took snippets and put 'em all into one beautiful piece of mastery--all out of context and not dealing with your false statements) was just asking for you to back up or update what you said.

You didn't.

So what exactly do you stand for, neo? It sure isn't the truth by any definition.

Neo Conservative said...

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sparkles says... Which brings us back to the beginning."

well sparks... even uber-trolls nixie and kevron aren't climbin' on board this crazy train. that oughta tell you something.

you keep tellin' yourself whatever you need to hear... and keep hammerin' away here, hoss... it's a pretty impressive display... of something.

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Sparky said...

Shorter neo--
I can't back up my assertions because even I know they're absurd, but to keep the folks entertained, I'll make childish attempts at humour directed at those that are smarter than me.

Sparky said...

do you even remember what the original post was about?
also shorter neo--
I can't keep all my lies straight anymore--someone please remind me which falsehood i'm propagating right now...

Neo Conservative said...

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say sparkles... you know how you keep saying, "we this.. and we that..." -- take another look through this thread... and see who "we" actually consists of.

but, of course, you've got your mission here.

if only you knew how to colour inside the lines.

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Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... all are victims in this mess."

that's funny, nonny... perhaps you missed the fact that only one of the "victims" ended up dead.

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