31 May 2010

That's why they call it war...

...and not "Circle of Friends"...

Senior Israeli defence officials said 10 activists died on the Mavi Marmara, a Turkish cruise ship carrying 581 people, after commandos came under fire, including with weapons that the activists had snatched from the boarding party.

Earlier, the military said "more than 10 demonstrators" were killed, while Israeli media had briefly spoken of up to 19 dead.
Funny though... most media outlets, unlike the National Post, don't seem to be showing both sides of the story...
Video from the convoy apparently showed a commando shinning down a rope and clashing with a man wielding a stick. Israeli television showed an activist apparently stabbing a soldier.

One commando told reporters that he came under fire and was attacked with metal bars and knives as he came down onto a ship from a helicopter around 4 a.m. Some activists, speaking Arabic, tried to take marines hostage.
Gotta hand it to the Pals... an incredibly successful "martyrdom operation"... this time, without even blowing themselves... or the usual quotient of innocent bystanders... up.
halls of macadamia/**********

RELATED: Hey... wait just a minute
Although drone strikes have killed more than a dozen Qaeda and Taliban leaders, they have incinerated hundreds of civilians, including women and children.
When do you think President McDreamy is gonna get put on trial for "war crimes"... for his egregious violations of Pakistani sovereignty and the Geneva Convention?


LAST WORD: Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
"This use of violence against the free press is brought to you by you, the Canadian taxpayer."
Coming soon... to a neighbourhood near you.
Of course, when Robert Heinlein said, "An armed society is a polite society" he was -- like all libertarians, and this is the flaw in their theories -- thinking of an Anglo-Saxon society populated by individuals who were all as intelligent and rational as Robert Heinlein.

And that does not describe the City of Toronto.
Don't say you weren't warned.


langmann said...

As the reporter, Gutmann, writes in her book, "The Other War", the media is part of the war. Public perception is part of the battle, and winning it has been hard for Israel lately. There's no doubt the soldiers acted as professional as possible under the circumstances, and there's no doubt a few martyrs were around to sway things their way. It will be interesting to hear if any used their kids as bullet catchers for the cause.

In terms of Obama's use of drones... sure is a double standard. A question I have, is that if you are a wanted Taliban leader and you know the US is going to annihilate you with a bomb, would you be hanging around your kids? I'd never go near them... different cultural beliefs I guess.

Neo Conservative said...

"langmann saysc... the media is part of the war."

for anyone who has the slightest doubt about that statement, i have one word... vietnam.

witness also the war in afghanistan.

canada has lost an average of 18 men & women annually in this conflict... which is not very far off the number of canadians killed by avalaches every year.

and, not to minimise the pain & loss of friends and families of our brave soldiers...

" -- In the decade from 1991-2000, there were 5,900 water-related deaths in Canada; of that total, 889 died fishing. -- "

that's 90 dead sport-anglers... annually... yet nowhere do i hear iggy or taliban jack, or the lunatic left... calling for an end to the war on rainbow trout.

it's what the media... and opportunistic politicians... do with these numbers that matters.

defending a principle, or your country has always had a price... as israel knows all too well.


langmann said...

-- like all libertarians, and this is the flaw in their theories -- thinking of an Anglo-Saxon society populated by individuals who were all as intelligent and rational as Robert Heinlein.

OK first let me premise this by saying that brandishing a CCW at Ali in this instance would not have been warranted. He was being pushing and did commit an assault, but like most punks his style, he has no real follow through.

But there is no flaw in Heinlein's libertarian theory. You see, in that armed society, natural selection has taken place enough times that the idiots of society have either intelligently moved on to areas where law abiding citizens aren't allowed to protect their lives or property... or dare I say it, are lying 6 feet under the cold hard earth providing sustenance for more sentient and evolved creatures.

There's a reason in Israel that the morons now use bombs instead of AK-47s to cause mass murder. Concealed weapon carrying Israeli citizens make that type of jihad into more of an epic fail.

Neo Conservative said...

"langmann says... brandishing a CCW at Ali in this instance..."

too true... but it's also true that michael bryant's car has killed more people than all of the guns i have ever owned put together.