01 December 2008

A taxpayer funded arm...

..of the Liberal party of Canada.

Mrs N. has the CBC on the radio... and their phone-in show is asking...

"How do you feel about the Liberal-NDP coalition bringing down the Conservative government?"
Funny how host Rita Celli forgot to mention... you know... the BLOC QUEBECOIS.

Oh yeah... the co-host of today's programme... former Liberal cabinet minister, leadership candidate and ex-MP John Godfrey.

Good grief.

Meanwhile, despite their best efforts... another "Red Star" pinko poll goes horribly wrong...


FROM THE COMMENTS:
"The triumvarate will rule ONLY with the acquiesance of the Bloc. They must give in to Duceppe's demands and he will have a defacto veto on anything that is proposed."

"And if you think that only the nation's economic matters will be in play here consider language rights in Quebec, separate representation at various world happenings, dedicated funding for whatever suits the Bloc, constitutional issues, aboriginal claims and issues and more (if I gave it some thought.)"
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19 comments:

Rich said...

So it's to be Dion; NOT Iggy!
CTV & Rae, Igster & Leblanc just announced it on CTV

Anonymous said...

Anyone is better than the pious, stuffed shirt that is Stephen Harper. I am enjoying the delicious schadenfreude of watching him back-pedal.

Rich said...

ANON....enjoy away; wait til you see what this little escapade costs, and I don't mean just financially.

Anonymous said...

Rich: What are you anticipating to be the outcome from the Harper camp- beyond the financial cost?

Rich said...

You mean not even the genius-trust running this cabal hasn't twigged to it?
Just stop and think for a minute!

Anonymous said...

Ah, so it is just an ideological argument. Admittedly, the Video Professor (aka Jack Layton) does scare the hell out of me.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... Admittedly, the Video Professor (aka Jack Layton) does scare the hell out of me."

well nonny... in this particular instance, i'm afraid taliban jack is only the first circle of hell.

handing the separatistes the "balance of power" is basically treason. not that jacko and steffi give a crap... they're just looking for that taxpayer pot-o-gold.

i truly fear for my country.

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roblaw said...

My primary interests are actually Provincial politics.. as, sadly, Alberta has learned that, at best, Ottawa is a benign influence on our welfare..

So, at the end of the day, this will most certainly assist in continuing the PC dominance in Alberta politics.. as the case for the Liberals as a "left of center" NDP friendly entity has NEVER been more clear.

Anonymous said...

Neo... I understand your apprehension- this is a Conservative blog after all. However, I will continue to remain optimistic and am hopeful this experiment will bear fruit. Remember, it was Harper who brought this on himself and his party by trying to strangle funding to the other parties.

Rich said...

Anon
You are right in that might have been an provocation but the fix had been in long before this.
Layton said that the plan had been in effect for quite a while; given that the parliament is only about 6 weeks old that means he was actively courting that snake Duceppe from basically the start of this session.
Courting him into making parliament NOT work.
That's damn near treason as far as I am concerned.
He is the moving force behind a coalition with Mephisto and the demands of the Bloc are insatiable as the Libs & Dips are about to find out...and the rest of Canada will paying in more than just economic ways.
This will hyper-inflate the separatist cause and be similar to being in-hock to Tony Soprano economically and in terms of values.
ASnd that is just the start.
The west is watching with great interest and if they feel that blackmail works for PQ, that will embolden the separatist factions there.
Great plan....yup, just great.

Anonymous said...

Rich,

With Quebec's desire to separate at an all-time low, I feel that playing out the worst case scenario of whipping up s pro-separate sentiment is pure fear mongering- complete fear of the unknown. Speaking as a Westerner (an Albertan no less)- the separatist movement has about clout as the Marxist-Leninist movement. The "domino separatist" theory doesn't hold any water.

Rich said...

Anon
We differ on these points; let's talk in 6 months.

Rich said...

There are claims that the Bloc will have veto power over every bill, who knows if this is true.
If it is, would that change your view at all Anon?

Anonymous said...

Rich

I will admit, it the Bloc was given that sort of power I would have an issue. However, until the becomes a reality, I will remain optimistic.

If that Bloc did have that sort of power, I will admit that is too high of a price to pay to take Harper's Tories out of office.

roblaw said...

I'm not sure regarding the lack of clout of Western separatists - depending upon the result of this power-play.. things could change.

At a minimum, there be a renewed demand for removal of Quebec from confederation - and if nothing else, the potential frenzy of Western Canadians.. err.. Albertans, Saskatchewanites, and British Columbians.. being angry over this may at least cause an increased hostility for the continued blackmail from Quebec and a renewed antipathy giving more ammunition to the BQ to perhaps finally get a "yes" vote.

Do not underplay the simmering rage in Western Canada over the goings-on in Ottawa prior to the renewal of the Conservative party. I engaged in a strong way to solicit the need to maintain Quebec in Canada during the last referendum and am not at all an extremist.. but, today, I am feeling that perhaps I made a mistake.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... However, until the(sic) becomes a reality, I will remain optimistic."

hey nonny... you're actually naive enough to imagine the separatistes are throwing in with the dippers and fiberals... out of the goodness of their hearts?

the stark fact is, they had dion by the place he used to have testicles... and they obviously got their quid pro quo up front. and the guy who bent over and grabbed his ankles... is now gonna be running the country?

and let's also remember, nonny... this is comin' out of your wallet and your future well-being too.

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langmann said...

neo says hey nonny... you're actually naive enough to imagine the separatistes are throwing in with the dippers and fiberals... out of the goodness of their hearts?

Remember neo, nonny is no intellectual genius.

Once again, "If you thought too much of your money was going to Quebec before...."

I swear, if this crap keeps on over the next four years, we're moving out of this country. I am sick to death of paying for both Quebec and American car companies.

Rich said...

Anon
The triumvarate will rule ONLY with the aquiesance of the Bloc. The libs & dips will specify that they have a 2.5 yr mandate.
They must give in to Duceppe's demands and he will have a defacto veto on anything that is proposed.
And if you think that only the nation's economic matters will be in play here consider language rights in Quebec, separate representation at various world happenings, dedicated funding for whatever suits the Bloc,constitutional issues, aboriginal claims and issues and more ( if I gave it some thought.) These are merely the thin edges of the wedge.
That wedgse being- Duceppe not only having the final say over what form bills will have but also having demands that MUST be met by the other 2 parties or the coalition collapses.
The demands will start after 6 months or so of wedded bliss I predict.
He has the country by the important bits and he knows it.
So yes the Bloc will have veto power and much more even if it is not written into any agreement.
Duceppe is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.
Dion & Layton are guys in the elevator, blind to anything but the moment.

Philanthropist said...

Canada's only in good shape because Stephen Harper began dealing with the global economic crisis two years ago, long before it became a media event.

Handing government over to the Three Stooges is gambling with the future of Canada as a nation, and our present economic good fortune - anyone who thinks times are 'really tough' right now has no memory of times as recent as the 70's.

We've had a quarter-century of nothing but prosperity and now the socialists want to bring that to a quick end. Foolish.