12 April 2009

Less Vigil... More Vigilance

So the community is "stepping up"... with candles?

" -- WOODSTOCK, ONT -- 'I think what's happening with members of the public is an expression of their emotions, their concern for this child. And I think that's good, in terms of the willingness of this community to step up,' Mayor Michael Harding told CBC News on Saturday."
This accomplishes exactly what? Besides, I mean... getting your 15 minutes of fame on the CBC National news.

Unlike the folks who show up along the highway from CFB Trenton to Toronto... to express their respect for the sacrifice of our slain soldiers... these people are more like gawkers at a terrible accident.

The one instance is a sign of respect directed towards the grieving families of the dead and... just as importantly... their compatriots on the far away battlefield. The other is merely a juvenile, self-conscious and overly contrived way to pretend that they are actually doing something useful.

It's like the crowds of sobbing 14 year-old students performing for the media, after some other kid they barely knew is killed in a car accident or a stupid brawl.

I salute all the folks who actually went out there and helped with the search. Likewise all the people who manned phones or distributed fliers. You know... the people who actually performed useful activities.

Let's just be honest here. There is absolutely nothing, besides the return of their missing child, that will make these parents feel better. Even if they consent to go on this very same newscast and express appreciation for this dog and pony show... it'll just be another lie... another case of doing what, these days... we are apparently expected to do.

A sop to the public thirst for morbid thrills.

It's purposeless and, more to the point, aside from making the participants feel better about themselves, accomplishes nothing. It's the neighbourhood version of those corporate team-building exercises we've all come to despise.

You don't look out for the interests of a child after the fact.

You do it before.

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UPDATE: Yes, gentle soul CC... I've been expecting you

But five times on this one post? Hmmm... smells a lot like desperation.
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LAST WORD: Tori's mum expresses her gratitude
As for those persistent stories that the composite looks like the mom?

"Woodstock is full of rumours and stories and crap, to be quite honest with you," she replies
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39 comments:

Renee said...

So you're mocking grief and community support because only certain kinds of deaths are worthy of bother? Wow. That's so... so... well, I guess sociopaths have to have blogs too.

PS: I'm not sure who standing on a highway is productive either.

Neo Conservative said...

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"renee says... So you're mocking grief and community support"

yes, of course renee... because your special friend & mentor 'canadian cesspool' says so.

hey, renee... remember canadian cynic's message to wanda watkins, whose son Lane was killed in afghanistan?

"With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief. It's not the job of the rest of Canada to continue to let its soldiers die just so you can sleep better at night."

you're on board with that... i guess it's no surprise you would also choose to disdain honouring the memory of our slain soldiers.

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KEvron said...

shorter neo-cunt: "fuck you, people of woodstock, and yer grief!"

KEvron

Neo Conservative said...

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another thoughtful, intellectual cc-licker shows up to wave the rainman flag.

kevvy... you're just doin' the job for me.

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Renee said...

Wait, you're saying that because I was referred to your website from another website then I agree 100% without criticism of that other website? And that somebody else's opinion must be mine as a result?

Riiiiight.

You're an idiot. And that's 100% MY opinion.

mahmood said...

I'm glad these insane/profane CynicBoy cesspoolians are blogging - it's better for society than them out there beating up seniors for pocket change or actually engaged in real-world social or political change. They're not looking for or offering insight, so it's not about the substance. There's no style or wit, so it's not the pleasure of writing. As near as I can figure they draw some kind of validation for a marginal world view from the exercise...

- single-sentence commentaries that amount, essentially to "Duh...fuck yeah, these douchebagcunt conservatives."

- a kind of rudimentary, puerile, vulgar aggression, heavy on profanity and light on grammar, reminiscent of the most unpleasant kid you can remember from high-school(think Biff in Back to the Future but fouler mouthed and without the endearing qualities)

- above all, an absolute absence of actual discussion or exchange of ideas - the CynicBoy resolutely acts as a troll in his own comments section shuting down anything resembling adult talk.

CynicBoy is a seriously troubled person who clearly draws comfort from the fact that there are people out there willing to take him seriously and maybe that is what keeps him going.

...and of course when good ol'Redtory staggers into the cesspool and falls down face first...well, need I say more.

Neo Conservative said...

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"renee says... Wait, you're saying..."

yeah, sure renee.

last time you claimed i said, "only certain kinds of deaths are worthy of bother".

you're a veritable aristotle.

say hi to cc for me.

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Renee said...

How do you even manage to tie your shoes in the morning?

Neo Conservative said...

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"renee says... How do you even manage to tie your shoes in the morning?"

oh no, renee... yet another poisoned barb in my heart!!! how can i possibly stand up to your incredibly articulate & devastating onslaught?

arghhhhh... i fear i breathe my last...

say, ren... you ever notice how cc doesn't do any commenting over here... he just winds up all his little squirrels... well, why i am telling you, huh?

hey... have you & kevron hooked up yet? he likes you... i can tell.

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KEvron said...

lol! mahmood assumes moral superiority! pricelsss.

KEvron

KEvron said...

"have you & kevron hooked up yet?"we're one and the same, chump.

KEvron

mahmood said...

kevron(prince charming)shrieks thusly...

"lol! mahmood assumes moral superiority! pricelsss."

heh, thanks for the compliment KEV but I can't in good conscience take credit for all that "moral superiority"...heh.

priceLOLsss

Neo Conservative said...

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"kevron squeals... we're one and the same"indeed you are, kevvy... indeed you are.

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KEvron said...

"I can't in good conscience take credit for all that 'moral superiority'"the person inside you, then.

KEvron

wv = "sacco". fuck his mrs and her grief.

KEvron said...

"indeed you are."and on top of your bountiful flaws, you're creepy, too.

KEvron

mahmood said...

KEVron, reporting live from CC HQ quacks...

"fuck his mrs. and her grief."

mahmood, reporting live from mahmood HQ replies...

Huh?...KEV, don't make me get all moral and superior on you...heh.

moraLOL

KEvron said...

"don't make me get all moral and superior"little chance of that, lambchop.

KEvron

mahmood said...

KEVron from his post at CC HQ baaaahaaaa's...

"little chance of that, lambchop."

mahmood, on sentry duty at mahmood HQ replies...

mint jelly?

porkLOLchop

KEvron said...

man, this blog is creepy. glad i only have to come herte on orders.

KEvron

mahmood said...

KEVron, now AWOL from CC HQ...and reality mewls...

"glad i only have to come herte on orders."

you're a good soldier KEV, now report back to CC HQ and put your lickspittle to good use on LuLu's boots...put a shine on 'em son, as only you can.

bootLOLicker

sinned34 said...

Sorry Neo, but I think that that people standing on the overpass "showing support" for soldiers are pretty much exactly the same as people gathering for a candlelight vigil "showing support" for a family that lost their child.

Please explain how holding a sign on the side of the road is "stepping up", yet holding a candlelight vigil is not.

Similar to what you stated about those that joined the search for the missing girl, the people who deserve true respect are people who volunteer to help veterans, who support their local Legion, etc, not the lazy assholes that slap a "support the troops" magnet on their SUV and pretend like they're helping.

Neo Conservative said...

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"sinned34 says... explain how holding a sign on the side of the road is "stepping up", yet holding a candlelight vigil is not."the thing is, little troll... your answer is already in the main post... you just have to read slower.

but you already knew that.

like renee & kevron, you're just here at the behest of "canadian cesspool" to jam up the conversation.

and kevvy? sorry, sweetie... you're simply too high maintenance for me. better take it on back to cc central and ask for another mission.

the anonymous troll action on this one is all too predictable.

trouble is... how do i know you're both not zorpheus?

ah well.

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sinned34 said...

the thing is, little troll... your answer is already in the main post... you just have to read slower. Sorry Neo, no troll over here. I've actually been posting for five years with this nickname on various sites. I haven't bothered filling out Blogger because I don't use it much. Yeah, I came here from CC's place, but I'm not anybody's monkey. I'm also nobody's sock puppet. You should be able to notice my IP is different from the other posters here.

I get it that there's lots of animosity in the blogosphere between liberals and conservatives, but I'm still a little bugged by the knee-jerk reaction to my post. If you feel like just labeling me a troll so you don't have to reply to my post that's fine. I'll happily leave and not return, if that's what you want.

But I posted because I was wanted more details on why you think there's such a big difference between a candlelight vigil and people standing on roadsides holding signs of support for dead soldiers. I want to know your justification for why one is a sign of respect and the other is a contrived method of pretending to do something useful.

your answer is already in the main post... you just have to read slower.
but you already knew that.
I read it and didn't find it a satisfactory explanation, but I'll try reading it again, this time as slow as you probably typed it.

The one instance is a sign of respect directed towards the grieving families of the dead and... just as importantly... their compatriots on the far away battlefield. The other is merely a juvenile, self-conscious and overly contrived way to pretend that they are actually doing something useful.So what makes them intrinsically different?

It's like the crowds of sobbing 14 year-old students performing for the media, after some other kid they barely knew is killed in a car accident or a stupid brawl.Yeah, some kids act all weepy over kids they barely know. And some adults act all weepy over soldiers they didn't know at all. I still don't see why you consider one different than the other.

There is absolutely nothing, besides the return of their missing child, that will make these parents feel better.I call bull on that. Nothing will bring back a dead soldier either, but you consider it legitimate to show support for a soldier's family and friends, but not to a grieving family that lost a child. Some people find comfort in community displays of support, and some don't. It still doesn't strike me as a reason to consider one a valid show of respect, and the other a selfish display.

I salute all the folks who actually went out there and helped with the search. Likewise all the people who manned phones or distributed fliers. You know... the people who actually performed useful activities.I agree with you here. And like I said earlier, I appreciate people that volunteer to help disabled vets or help their local Legion.

Even if they consent to go on this very same newscast and express appreciation for this dog and pony show... it'll just be another lie... another case of doing what, these days... we are apparently expected to do.,Ahhh, I think we've found the problem here: you just don't like the media getting involved. Unfortunately, I vaguely remember the media interviewing people along the highway from CFB Trenton to Toronto, so I guess they were just one more sop to the "public thirst for morbid thrills", eh?

One question: what do you think of people that join candlelight vigils for deceased soldiers?

I look forward to your response, and apologize for such a long post.

Sparky said...

sinned34--you'll be waiting a long time before Neo will respond thoughtfully to your articulated comment.
I have as yet to see Neo repond thoughtfully to anyone who disagreed with him. I've tried to engage him before but he just wants to hear sycophantic responses. This is his little echo chamber of nonsense and drama.
10 bucks says he'll respond to this before he'll respond to yours.
(though, now that I've written this, he'll probably come up with a quibbling rejoiner to yours and then say something flippant about my post just 'cause that's the way he rolls...)

Neo Conservative said...

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oh sparkly... i wondered which of cc's little trollboys was going to respond to "canadian cesspool's" latest call to arms.

i mean, this is the fourth time (on this post alone) that the foulmouthed one has wound up his squirrels and sent them flying over here.

now... the last time you were here, you were trying to defend poor ol' "liberal supporter". yet another proud moment in the socialist struggle for recognition, huh?

hey, help me out bro... what's an "articulated comment" anyway? is that like the articulated canadarm on the space shuttle?

i owe you zip, troll.

and despite cc's best efforts, you are apparently the only dumbstick who took up the cudgel for him here.

go home and grow up errand-boy. maybe someday the adults will let you join the conversation.

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sinned34 said...

Sparky,

Yeah, after a month with no response I figured that I wasn't going to be graced with a reply.

Apparently, Neo felt it was enough to just label me a troll instead of actually responding to anything I said. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, it's one of the main reasons why I rarely bother to post comments on blogs involved in the partisan cesspool of what passes for Canadian politics.

Neo,

I've still got this post subscribed, so if you ever feel like responding with substance instead of insults, I'll be keeping an eye out.

Neo Conservative said...

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dear sinned... i'm glad that you and sparky are such good friends. he travels in such slimy circles, i was beginning to worry about his mental health.

you and the sparkly one seem to feel that i owe you something here... and that simply isn't the case.

i have explained all this previously to a poster on another thread, but perhaps it bears repeating here...

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sorry to disappoint you, yet again rob.

you (and audrey) seem to be forgetting that i am neither pundit, nor professional journalist. i myself, am under no illusions about that... and thus feel i owe neither you, nor anybody else, well... anything.

i engage with readers and commenters solely at my leisure... and feel no need to respond to every little objection raised.

furthermore, it seems i am a bit of a lightning-rod for the demented leftosphere these days... and as a result have to deal with an inordinate number of insults, and even threats, on a daily basis.

your buddy-in-socialism zorpheus... who actually admitted to deluging the blog with nonsensical trolls under a false id is but one example of this phenomena.

if someone showed up at my house and attempted to treat me this way... i would, most assuredly toss them out on their nasty, troglodyte asses. my repartee is, oft-times, the online equivalent of dealing with a discourteous caller at my door.

anyway, rob... i have some other fish to fry at the moment.

you have been, for the most part, a courteous, (if somewhat puzzling... to me anyway) commenter here i hope this little explanation eases your pain somewhat.
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as mentioned above... this is the fourth time cc has sent his followers to this particular post in an attempt to jam up actual conversation.

i'm simply not interested in playing that particular game

ask yourself though... why doesn't cc ever come here and comment himself?

and remember sinned... i'm not here to provide you with instant gratification.

please don't feel obligated, like cc himself, to hang on my every written word.

you're being used folks... consider the source.

wake up and smell the cesspool.

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sinned34 said...

Hello Neo,

i'm glad that you and sparky are such good friendsActually, I have no idea who Sparky is. I don't know if I've even read a post by him/her before. I was just replying to a comment he/she left for me. It's usually considered good netiquette to do that.

you and the sparkly one seem to feel that i owe you something here... and that simply isn't the case.Who said anything about being owed anything? You run a blog offering your opinion on subjects, and you leave comments open (I assumed) to facilitate discussion on those opinions.

To borrow your house analogy, you left your front door open with a sign that says "Discussions Inside". So I came in and tried to create some conversation. Then, when you saw that I came over from Canadian Cynic's house, you insisted that I must be one of CC's friends, and refused to reply to my questions.

this is the fourth time cc has sent his followers to this particular post in an attempt to jam up actual conversationFirst, I have no idea how many times CC has linked to this post. What does the number of times he's linked to here have to do with the questions I asked you? Second, exactly what did I do to "jam up actual conversation"? All I did was ask for further clarification on your position, and you didn't even bother to reply back.

why doesn't cc ever come here and comment himself?I'm afraid I'm not familiar with Canadian Cynic's posting habits. Besides, he isn't the issue here, so please don't change the subject. I like to visit websites that have discussions with people who hold ideas that I both agree and disagree with, and I posted here because I wanted clarification on something you had said. I won't make that mistake again.

Since you seem to just be looking for sycophantic support and don't want to discuss differences in opinion, then you're quite welcome to it. It's your blog and you can do anything you want with it. You apparently have more important things to do, so I won't waste a second more of your precious time.

Have a good one.

Neo Conservative said...

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"sinned says... I won't waste a second more of your precious time." --

i can live with that... you say hi to "canadian cesspool" for me.

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Sparky said...

That's what I thought--drama queen much, Neo?
I was waiting for a continuing discussion regarding your blog post--where you would "express and formulate--present with clarity and effectiveness" (or articulate, as some would say) your point considering sinned refuted it thoroughly (and politely).
However, you come back with your usual brand of "cc's such a meanie!!".
Guess I'll continue to wait.

Neo Conservative said...

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it's always funny how the denizens of trolldom, while frantically digging in and screaming about how inconsequential i am... just can't stop buzzing around again and again.

so yes, sparkly... you little mosquito... you continue to wait.

the triumph of hope over experience.

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Sparky said...

it's always funny how the denizens of trolldom, while frantically digging in and screaming about how inconsequential i am... just can't stop buzzing around again and againWow--again arrogance and stupidity in the same package--how efficient.
Wanna put some of this energy into revamping your thoroughly decimated blog post? Or are you just going to keep on drama queening all over the place.
And I like how you didn't even acknowledge your lack of education where the word 'articulate' is concerned.
How about this--if you want to have an intelligent discussion about, well, anything, at least find out what words actually mean. Then you might have a basis for a rational and well thought discussion about the issues you appear to be so passionate about.
Here's a website that can aid you in this endeavour--
http://dictionary.reference.com/
Until then, you're just a caricature and anything resembling cohesive thought is purely coincidental.

Neo Conservative said...

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yes, yes sparkly... because you and "canadian cesspool" say so.

funny how much time and energy you dumbsticks have to put into telling me how insignicant i am in your lives.

you really wanna learn something, you should go look up the word "irony" in your dictionary.

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Sparky said...

funny how much time and energy you dumbsticks have to put into telling me how insignicant i am in your lives.Yeah, there's lots of proof that I said anything resembling that...
Wait--there isn't.
Does it just come naturally for you to blatantly lie, Neo?
Your blog post was refuted thoroughly by sinned, and all you can do now is lie and obfuscate?
If you can't even defend your position without resorting to "cc's such a meanie!!", then why are you doing this?
And what does it matter how people get to your site? Don't you want the discussion? I mean, it's what blogging's all about. Don't you want a critical analysis and/or debate of your points? If so, then answer sinned's points.
If not, then just turn off comments all together.
you really wanna learn something, you should go look up the word "irony" in your dictionary.It's ironic when someone who calls others dumbsticks doesn't know what articuate means.
It's ironic when someone who bemoans others coming here from a particular website and dismisses them as 'just wasting his time' replies to every comment with 'hey, you're wasting my time'
It's ironic when someone's blogging about what he considers matters of import and yet won't defend even one of his points.
It's ironic when someone continuously mentions how another blogger 'won't come over here' to engage him on these issues when he doesn't go 'over there' to comment on issues.
Irony?? Thy name is Neo.

Neo Conservative said...

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yes, yes sparkly... always nice to see that, at minimum... you and klassy kevron are always ready to answer cc's clarion call.

kevvy, like his mentor, just likes to talk dirty... what's your excuse?

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Sparky said...

I'm not Kevvy, I'm not ti, I'm not CC...
You posted this blog entry, and others have pointed out that it's complete garbage.
You want to deflect attention from that by jumping and screaming about everything else.
This is standard for you--I've noted this on many of your other posts where you talk big but when shown to be wrong, back nothing up. You fall back to the name calling and cc ranting exploits that you're known for.
Sure commenters have been 'yippy'--that's the nature of blogging. If you post a steaming turd, then don't be surprised of others call you on it. If you're known for being over-the-top with sophmoric banter, then don't get pissed because people respond in kind.
However, sinned didn't engage in sophmoric banter, nor is he known for hanging out at CC's place. He posted legitimate counterpoints to your blog and even to your comments afterwards, and yet you still won't defend what you wrote or concede that it was total crap.
You just want to piss and moan about cc and others that hang out 'over there'.
Wanna try to respond and defend and/or update your position? Or are you going to continue your idiocy.

Neo Conservative said...

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"sparkly says... You posted this blog entry, and others have pointed out that it's complete garbage." --

yup... because you and kevvy and "canadian cesspool" (five separate posts linking to this one) say so.

so sparks... please feel free to continue to take your cues from the puerile pottymouth who frequently refers to women as "the dumb cuntitude" and, unbelievably, told the mother of a dead canadian soldier... "fuck you and your grief."any time cc has his panties in a knot, i know i'm on the side of the angels.

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Sparky said...

I don't take my cues from anyone.
However, I'd rather listen to a 'potty mouth' person who actually speaks the truth instead of a blatant liar.
You, sir, are a liar
Moreover, you can't even respond coherently to your detractors without resorting to "cc's such a meanie!!"
Let me point out again that sinned refuted every point of your blog post. Every point. You responded with... cc's a meanie.
sinned responded to every point of your reply and you did what...
cc's a meanie!
Again, how about you respond to sinned's points?
Or are you going to obfuscate some more?

Neo Conservative said...

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"sparkly yowls... I'd rather listen to a 'potty mouth' person who actually speaks the truth " --

oh, your sparkliness... i guess you mean canadian cynic's message to wanda watkins... whose son lane was killed in afghanistan?

"With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief. It's not the job of the rest of Canada to continue to let its soldiers die just so you can sleep better at night." --

or how about cc's cohort lindsay stewart aka pretty shaved ape... whose magnum opus was a sleazy, psychotic break detailing his rape fantasies about ann coulter.

you've got some funny role models, sparks. now why don't you pucker up and report back to cesspool central.

and hey, say hi to your "truthy buddies" for me.

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