22 June 2009

Apparently, contrary to popular opinion...

...France hasn't surrendered... just yet.

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UPDATE: Turning up the heat

France is to set up a commission to study the extent of burka-wearing in the country, after President Nicolas Sarkozy said the veils reduced dignity.

The French National Assembly has appointed 32 lawmakers on a fact-finding mission to look at ways of restricting its use.
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11 comments:

Neo Conservative said...

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[full text follows]

Burka sign of subservience, not religion, says French president
Last Updated: Monday, June 22, 2009 | 11:15 AM ET
CBC News


Full-body gowns that are worn by the most conservative Muslim women have no place in France, President Nicolas Sarkozy said Monday.

Speaking to a joint session of parliament, the French leader said wearing the burka or the niqab isn't about religion, but the subjugation of women.

"In our country, we cannot accept that women be prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity," Sarkozy said to extended applause in a speech at the Chateau of Versailles, southwest of Paris.

He said the burka — an all-concealing traditional dress, with built-in mesh covering the eyes — is "a sign of subservience, a sign of debasement."

"I want to say solemnly that it will not be welcome on our territory," he said.

Dozens of French legislators have proposed a parliamentary commission to study the small but growing trend of wearing burkas and niqabs.

In France, the terms "burka" and "niqab" often are used interchangeably. The latter is a full-face veil, often in black. Unlike the burka it does not obscure a woman's eyes.

On Friday, government spokesman Luc Chatel told French television the commission could propose legislation aimed at banning the burka in public if it is found to be degrading for women.

In 2004, a law banning the Islamic headscarf and other highly visible religious symbols from French public schools sparked a heated debate on the issue.

Proponents insisted such a ban was necessary to ensure France's schools remain strictly secular, while some Muslims countered the law specifically targeted them and unduly punished Muslim girls.

With files from The Associated Press
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Anonymous said...

lovin it! too bad that kind of courage is obsolete in canadian politicians.

dupmar said...

Keep in mind that this is proposed legislation and has not yet become law, and per its proponents, flows from the secularist traditions of the French Republic.

It is similar to secularist policy introduced in Turkey by Kemal Ataturk in 1924. On the issue of the headscraves controversy in Turkey, Wikipedia informs us that Ataturk “ introduced the secularization of the state in the Turkish Constitution of 1924,.... Atatürk saw headscarves as backward-looking and an obstacle to his campaign to secularize and modernize the new Turkish Republic.”
“With a policy of official secularism, the Turkish government has traditionally banned women who wear headscarves from working in the public sector. The ban applies to teachers, lawyers, parliamentarians and others working on state premises. The ban on headscarves in the civil service and educational and political institutions was expanded to cover non-state institutions. Authorities began to enforce the headscarf ban among mothers accompanying their children to school events or public swimming pools, while female lawyers and journalists who refused to comply with the ban were expelled from public buildings such as courtrooms and universities. “
“Prime Minister Erdogan campaigned in his victorious 2007 campaign with a promise of lifting the longstanding ban on headscarves in public institutions.”
“On 5 June 2008, Turkey's Constitutional Court annulled the parliament's proposed amendment intended to lift the headscarf ban, ruling that removing the ban would run counter to official secularism. While the highest court's decision to uphold the headscarf ban cannot be appealed (AP 7 June 2008), the government has nevertheless indicated that it is considering adopting measures to weaken the court's authority.”

Just being honest said...

Wow, in my lifetime I will have seen the fall of the Berlin wall and communism, the total elimination of racism in the United States as so eloquently shown by the election of Barak Obama to the Presidency and now the first politician with the courage to actually defy the fake-offended PC thought police and say what most of his country actually thinks. May God bless your couilles Monsieur Sarkozy!

dupmar said...

Per the previous comment on the cowardice of our politicians, it is unlikely we would embrace such policies, they run contrary to our traditions and the Canadian constitution, which does not embrace " official secularism" but rather religious freedoms and the rights of denominational schools, even multiculturalism, which would serve as constitutional defense on such an issue. You can't have it both ways, and even the Canadian Cynic would have to recognize that there is some value to the constitutional protection of religious expression.

Neo Conservative said...

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i still have trouble believing the mcslippery liberals stood up to the proposed (however limited) implementation of sharia law in ontario.

the fact is, in france especially, there are islamic enclaves where the police are afraid to set foot.

witness the annual car-b-q celebrations.

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Werner Patels said...

Now just watch Jennifer Lynch haul the entire Republic of France before her kangaroo court ...

maryT said...

If they ban the burka, how will the islamic male leaders escape from shrines or whereever.

Neo Conservative said...

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or... not escape... as the case may be.

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Rob Budde said...

"don't give me that 'treated equal' stuff"

Neo Conservative said...

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that's the trouble with embracing the ideals of a 15th century theocracy that sees women as useful appendages.

equal... maybe... to a beast of burden.

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