28 March 2007

Female "swabbie" scuttles career

Well, at least she didn't convert to Islam.

I think.

Even if the Royal Navy is willing to accept this behaviour as being coerced by the Iranians, this woman will never be respected, or, I'm guessing, even spoken to by any other member of the British military forces... for the rest of her life.

Leading Seaman Turney, 26, said they had been seized in the Gulf because "obviously we trespassed" in Iranian waters - something the UK disputes.

There was separate footage of Leading Seaman Turney -- wearing a black headscarf -- and speaking.

"They were very friendly and very hospitable, very thoughtful, good people.

"They explained to us why we had been arrested. There was no aggression, no hurt, no harm. They were very, very compassionate."
Whatever happened to name, rank and serial number?

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UPDATE: Damn you, infidel science!!!

Perhaps Ms. Turney and her newfound Iranian pals were a little too eager to point fingers...
The British evidence was based on a GPS read-out of the position where an Indian merchant ship was boarded by a British inspection party on Friday.

Iran at first offered a different co-ordinate and then, when it was pointed out that even this was in Iraqi waters, another reading was given, this time on the Iranian side.
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RELATED: Politically correct argle-bargle falls flat

From the Andrea Dworkin School of Journalism...
Speaking to her local newspaper last year, she spoke of her pride at being a woman in the navy. "You can't just sit back just because you're a girl," she told the Plymouth Herald.

"I love the satisfaction of being able to walk away from a job and know that I have coped and completed the task just as well as a man would have done it."
I especially love the part in the much publicised propaganda letter to her family, where she talks about bringing home gifts from the Iranian people.

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25 comments:

Anonymous said...

Name rank and serial number is an old policy from ww2.
Now its hold out on telling the enemy any vital info for 48 hours.
After that any info you have is probably obsolete now adays.
You can tell them you are Mickey Mouse if thats what they want to hear. Why would you want your soldiers to be tortured for no good reason.

Dave T

Neo Conservative said...

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"dave t said... hold out on telling the enemy any vital info

what are you talking about... vital info?

from what i can see, this twit may not even have known where the specially built just-for-girls shipboard powder-room was.

take a closer look davy... she dressed up like an islamofembot and parroted their lies. the only thing this silly little piece of fluff didn't do... was enter into an arranged marriage with a member of the revolutionary guard.

this is completely unacceptable, unless of course, the british military has given up soldiering for social work, or babysitting weak-sister wannabees.

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Anonymous said...

Sorry neo I have to disagree.
First let me be clear, I havent seen the video and dont really need to. I dont care if she dressed like a clown and did the maccarana, the only thing that she is responsible for as a soldier or salior is to not give away military info.
Let her explain her actions when she is free to do so.
At least that is what i was taught in the army.

Dave T

Neo Conservative said...

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"dave t said... At least that is what i was taught in the army."

sorry dave, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

read the article, watch the video and then come back and tell me if you, with or without a stint in the army, would have done what she did?

deal?

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Anonymous said...

ok Neo deal.

By the way its not what I would have done (I would have taken a beating first) Im just saying you dont have to.

Dave T

Neo Conservative said...

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"dave t said... its not what I would have done (I would have taken a beating first)"

dave... i guess i already knew that, and that's precisely my point.

funny how nobody's talking about the fourteen men on the detail who chose not to bend over and grab their ankles for the iranians.

it's called aiding and abetting... and my guess is, the islamofucks will have to beat these guys half to death before they roll over.

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kenneyb210 said...

A nine year veteran, pilot of the boat, perhaps the leader of the group...Saying what the Iranians wanted her to because...she was smart..knew whatever she said would be easily disregarded...took the fall so the others left behind wouldn't have to repeat the sh*t..wanted to live to fight another day...was acting like a soldier..

Just saying...

John W

Neo Conservative said...

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"kenneyb210 said... took the fall so the others left behind wouldn't have to repeat the sh*t"

so now she's a hero... er, heroine?

let me give you the same proposition, i gave to dave...

read the article, watch the video and then come back and tell me if you would have done what she did?

deal?

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kenneyb210 said...

Hard to do neo, am on dial-up

I believe that the soldiers in this war know the enemy enough to know that lies, distortion, etc are all fair . What's to say she didn't do a superb job. I would rather believe that. A nine year vet wouldn't turn turtle so quickly.
The letter had a reference to a constant supply of fluids. Code for BS maybe??

What is to say the video couldn't be even better BS?

John W

Neo Conservative said...

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"kenneyb210 said... I would rather believe that"

well... you're free to believe whatever you wish... although you seem to be tending towards the alien abduction side of the scale in this particular case.

funny though, you still didn't answer the question.

you've read the article... now, would have done what she did?

it's not that hard... dave answered right away.

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kenneyb210 said...

Given what I said in my first comment...yes...Like Dave T replied he would have taken a beating first ( ie. before doing what she did)...you don't have to take a beating...

relax neo I'm downloading the vid.

John

Neo Conservative said...

"john said... Relax Neo... yes...Like Dave T replied I would have taken a beating first"

hey, i'm as loose as a goose over here... and like i said previously, i already knew you wouldn't have given it up without a bit of rubber hose.

that's my point... what guy would roll over for this without a serious smackin' around.

i'm not saying all women couldn't stand up... just that this one obviously didn't.

we cool?

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kenneyb210 said...

way cool

John

NateDawg said...

My first reaction when I saw the video was "What did those bastards do to her to make her say that?"

My guess is the Iranians staged a few mock executions and have been psychologically torturing the soldiers for the last five days, and she was the first to break.

Personally, I won't rag on a POW until the entire story comes out (surely it'll be a made-for-TV movie in the next year).

Neo Conservative said...

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"natedawg said... staged a few mock executions and have been psychologically torturing"

nate... like our last commentator, you're willing to go to ridiculous lengths to give this woman the benefit of the doubt.

now ask yourself... is it just because she's female? if the answer is yes... what does that say?

you've obviously read the article... now, would you have done what she did without a serious tuning up?

I can guess.

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Anonymous said...

Sorry neo I had to go out.

Let me clarify one more thing the reason I would have taken a beating is not to be tough or a hero or anything, its because I would of made sure I had enough marks on me so that everyone would understand the reason for my confession.
These people are animals and our troops know it. Im sure she knows it too.
I still think she needs to do whatever it is to survive.

Dave T

Neo Conservative said...

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dave t said... I would have taken a beating not to be tough or a hero"

dave, dave... i get it... as does every other man alive.

that's the point.

now ask yourself... is this woman a member of a military outfit or is she somebody's mummy dressing up and playing at rambo.

if the shooting had started, would she have put her face in her hands and started crying? if she caved because the iranians verbally threatened her... it sure sounds like a real possibility.

and because she drives the boat... people could have died.

again, i'm not saying all women couldn't stand up... just that this one obviously didn't.

so does she get a break just because she's female? if the answer is yes... tell me, what does that say about the modern co-ed military?

what part of this are you not getting?

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Kateland, aka TZH said...

Neo, I watched and I kepted hoping that she would snatch off that bleeding scarf and throw it on the floor and tell her capturors she was not a bleeding poodle but a British Seaman. If La Passionata, Oriana Fallaci, had enough balls to twice throw off her chador in the presence of the Grand Ayatollah Khomeini in his palace in defiance of his direct orders -than I would have expected at least a little spark of spirit in a British Seaman.

Neo Conservative said...

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"Kateland, aka TZH said... tell her capturors she was not a bleeding poodle but a British Seaman"

jeeezus... what a breath of fresh air.

i've been waiting for a woman to drop in and voice an opinion... so far all i've had are guys and they're all just trying to be chivalrous about the whole thing.

basically everyone is saying... "hey, she's just a girl, leave her alone... and it sure as shit doesn't get much more patronising than that.

hmmm...

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strider said...

Apparently she doesn't buy into the whole Stockdale/McCain school of heroic resistance in captivity. Her behavior is a sickening example of what political correctness has done to a once great navy and nation.

Neo Conservative said...

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"strider said... Apparently she doesn't buy into the whole Stockdale/McCain school of heroic resistance"

school of resistance?!?!? the woman sounds like she's ready to bear Ahmadinejad's love child.

insha'allah, huh?

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Mark said...

What nobody in the media seems to be picking up, nor inquiring about, is the symbolism of the female soldier wearing the keffiah in one case, then what might be called a black hijab in another.

Being worn by a captured female soldier, both symbolize the exaltation of Islam over the freedoms of the West. Those pictures scream submission to Islam, hence the churning of my stomach.

Strider makes an interesting point too.

Neo Conservative said...

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"Those pictures scream submission to Islam, hence the churning of my stomach."

and that, very succinctly put, is my point.

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Anonymous said...

These sailors have standing orders to co-operate if taken prisoner, as far as possible without giving away anything dangerous. This woman was following her orders. It doesn't look like the people criticizing her have anything like her courage and discipline. She's under no obligation to get herself tortured to gratify you.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon said... It doesn't look like the people criticizing her have anything like her courage and discipline."

ya think?

Captive female sailor... now calling for Brit withdrawal in Iraq?

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