21 October 2015

Despite the flush of victory rhetoric...

...I'm thinking "first promise to be broken"...no fractious moron left behind

"In an election based on proportional representation... the Liberals would drop from 184 to 135 seats, while the Conservatives would inch up from 99 to 108 and the NDP would have a much higher profile with 68 seats instead of its current 44."
Will Justin really cut the Liberal Party's throat?

Look for "#Gerald Butts kicks Justins nuts" to very shortly start trending.


12 comments:

Anonymous said...

He didn't actually promise proportional representation. Here's the exact Liberal promise:

"We will convene an all-party Parliamentary committee to review a wide variety of reforms, such as ranked ballots, proportional representation, mandatory voting, and online voting."

But my guess is there won't be any real changes to the basic method currently used to select our MPs.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... He didn't actually promise proportional representation."

taking a page out of the slick willie clinton handbook, i see...

"ah did not have commitments with that electorate"...

perhaps you should read a bit slower.

"Perhaps the most ambitious promise, however, is Trudeau’s vow to do away with first-past-the-post (FPTP) in time for the next election."

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Anonymous said...

They'll pick whatever is sure to lead to more liberal victories. That's for damn sure. I'm guessing he'll make sure to not make the same mistake the province of BC did and actually ask people what they want either.

Neo Conservative said...

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i have no doubt that four years of justin will go a long, long way... there's a big difference between affable and honourable and between sly and intelligent.

the pony will self-destruct at some point.

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Anonymous said...

Eliminating first past the post does not necessarily mean proportional representation. FPtP is how we elect MPs in each riding, but they could instead be elected using a ranking method (BC election in late 1950s), or the single transferable vote (STV - see Ireland or the defeated BC referendum), or a run-off where the top two vote getting candidates duel it out in a second election a couple of days after the first voting day, etc. Any of these systems still means that MPs are elected directly by the voters in their riding, and there is no proportional representation system at all. I'm not sure the Liberals would fare well under any of these systems.

Anonymous said...

You quoted someone describing his promise and I quoted the actual promise.

Anonymous said...

Ranked is better than run off. Run off will turn into strategic voting. Where as ranked ballot does away with that nonsense and you actually get a get quality candidates even from the left.
Less likely to get ideologues.
Which is funny, cuz in the U.S. the Republicans had too few constitutionalists but plenty of "non-partisans" when the Democrats went even further left.

The "liberal" supporters still don't understand what the word means or where it came from or what its become.

Neo Conservative said...

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"nonny insists... you quoted someone describing his promise and I quoted the actual promise."

hmmm... you keep saying that. i know, let's ask the Shiny Pony himself, huh?

That means the “winner-takes-all” way Canadian voters have always elected their MPs will be changed in time for the 2019 federal campaign.

“It was one of our commitments that this would be the last election based on this process,” Trudeau told reporters in Ottawa on Tuesday.


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canadianna said...

It will work out ok for the Liberals. They are the largest of the left-wing parties so will invariably hold the majority of seats. They can retain power in perpetuity simply by bribing and buying the smaller left wing parties who will hold the balance of power, the way they have the unions. Eternal power. Gotta love democratic reform if you lean left in this country.

Neo Conservative said...

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"canadianna says... bribing and buying the smaller left wing parties"

ah, yes. i keep forgetting all the older librano caporegimes in the shadows who will be leading the shiny pony to water.

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Anonymous said...

The article you quoted also includes this, "Trudeau has promised that an all-party parliamentary committee will be struck to consider reforms — including proportional representation, ranked ballots, and online and mandatory voting — then make recommendations to the Commons." lol

Neo Conservative said...

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and again... of course the pony will ensure that a larger bureaucracy, complete with limo drivers and expense accounts, is put in place to ponder at length before he issues his official edict...

"It was one of our commitments that this would be the last election based on this process,” Trudeau told reporters in Ottawa on Tuesday."

first past the post is out, proportional is in... which, if applied last monday, would have meant 135 liberal seats instead of 184.

your shiny pony has spoken... resistance is futile. we'll be like italy, where they have had almost a new government each year since 1945... bickering and getting nowhere as the country falls apart.

you, my ever-present troll, are a fool. enjoy your naked emperor while you can.

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