05 September 2007

Believe it or not...

The guy who very publicly crapped all over the mother of a dead Canadian soldier... is now crying foul...

Remember Canadian Cynic's message to Wanda Watkins, whose son Lane was killed in Afghanistan?

"With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief. It's not the job of the rest of Canada to continue to let its soldiers die just so you can sleep better at night."
It seems CC can dish it out... he's just not so good at "taking it." Apparently he's gone as far as to sic the cops on another blogger who has threatened to "out" his despicable ass.
Dear Canadian Cynic... You can rest assured that, when I ascertain your true identity (and I will), I will publish it here on the Nexus. Then I'll mail copies of your comments to your friends and family.

Let's face it, Cynic, it isn't a beating you're afraid of. It's having to face your loved ones, with them knowing everything you've spouted from that trash heap you facetiously refer to as your blog, that you should really be afraid of.
Poor little CC.

Hey, trashboy.. I feel your pain.


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FROM THE COMMENTS:
He (Canadian Cynic) wants Stephen Taylor to kick any BT who advocates for identifying anonymous writers off the blogroll.

I can't help but think that's a double standard.

Shouldn't cc afford other bloggers the same freedom of speech he has been using to offend so many people?
CC apparently just doesn't get it.

The primary issue here isn't anonymity... it's about a nasty little piece of shite, finally getting the grief that he deserves.

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Also from the comments... the curiously mislabeled "Red Tory" wants to climb into bed with the guy who spat in Wanda Watkins face.
"The fact that most of you don’t have a fraction of the wit, acumen and political savvy that CC has, explains volumes about the tiresome moping of this dreary circle jerk."

Posted by Red Tory to halls of macadamia at 7:54 AM, September 06, 2007
That's Red Tory's true colours.

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Of course, the day just wouldn't be complete without CC's inarticulate little brother once again dropping in offering homoerotic e-sex...
Ti-Guy said...

"Suck it hard, stalker."

Posted by Ti-Guy to halls of macadamia at 9:02 PM, September 06, 2007
Hey Ti-Guy, just ask CC if you can borrow his porn.

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UPDATE: I see from sitemeter that I'm getting all kinds of traffic from "Red Tory"... who has launched a stinging attack, not on me personally... but on, wait for it... macadamia nuts.
"While we’re on the subject of spiny-serrated, woody, globose follicles, did you know that another name for macadamia nuts is “bush nuts.” It’s true! Kind of funny that. And here’s some other nutty factoids of note… Most of the genus consists of nuts that are poisonous or completely inedible."
Not sure whether I'm supposed to be wounded... or outraged... on behalf of these tasty little treats.

It's a fact... somebody around here's a little nuts.

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LAST WORD: Don't miss Round Three

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58 comments:

Roy Eappen said...

Why bother? CC is pretty insignificant. I suspect he is a 17 year old high school student with bad grades. We assign it more importance than it really deserves. it is also an amusing source of hits. It seems to read my blog more than some of my friends. It is so pathetic it is not really worth exposing .

Neo Conservative said...

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sorry roy... gotta disagree.

he's a despicable coward and a bully and he deserves to wear this.

let's see him write some of that vile shit with his mom looking over his shoulder.

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rabbit said...

I'm no fan of CC, but he's right on this one. The fact that he spends his days insulting and baiting, and at times says things that are truly revolting, makes no difference - his privacy should be respected.

The worst thing you can do to CC is not to out him, but to ignore him. CC probably loves the fact that NOA has got his tail in a knot - that's the very oxygen that CC breaths.

Besides which, I'm sure that CC's family is aware of his hobbies. CC must work at it practically full time.

Neo Conservative said...

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sorry rabbit... again, have to disagree.

you can smell cc's panic over being outed... and i say it looks good on him.

the only thing that would make it better is if he isn't some smelly, overweight socially isolated adolescent, blogging out of his mommy's basement... and he has to deal with the approbation of his boss and co-workers.

funny how it all comes around sometimes.

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Anonymous said...

There is nothing wrong with being anonymous. But if you're going to say the kind of things CC does, then no wonder he's worried.

CC is just another left wing idiot who is too chicken shit to answer for the things he says.

Raphael Alexander said...

I'd say leave him be. Some people don't quite understand the implications of their insensitive remarks. But ultimately I would hope that our little ramblings out here on the internet don't amount to any kind of requirement of real life interference or "outing" of real identities.

If someone was so inclined, they could probably use some of my comments on multiculturalism to convince my employer that I'm not the most ethnically sensitive person in the world. But would doing so really be productive to society? Or merely vindictive? Certainly it would curtail free speech.

CC said some idiotic things, but he was given a chance to apologize, and in his own little way he did tone it down. I think deep down he feels bad for his comments, and if he understood the true meaning behind telling a grieving mother to f*ck herself, I'm sure he would be ashamed enough that it would be a cool lesson in humility for the future.

rabbit said...

Raphael:

I agree that he shouldn't be outed, cause...

(1) I'm sure lots of conservative bloggers are anonymous and would like to stay that way. This is not the type of war anyone should start.

(2) The ability to stay anonymous greatly facilitates freedom of speech on the web. The price of such freedom is that a lot of offensive things get said by people we detest, but that's a price we should be willing to pay.

But so far as CC feeling bad for anything he said, I am massively skeptical. This guy lives to kick ant nests, and appears to carry a true hate-on for people he disagrees with.

The only thing he really fears is to be ignored.

Which makes me wonder why I am posting about him. Doh!

PGP said...

Interesting point about whether there is an implied right to privacy when you blog!
I'd say NOT....you can do what you may to protect your privacy but the Terms of Use do not guarantee your anonymity.
The fact is that the IP addressing format will allow a knowledgeable user to ferret out any source.

Roast the little ***k and roast him good!

Paul MacPhail said...

Roy, I'd have to agree with you. Since we know nothing about CC except what he shares with us on his blog, it's difficult to ascertain if he's really a mental midget or just playing the part of one. While I agree that it's rather cowardly to fling insults the way he does from the bravery of being anonymous, that's his choice. It's everybody else's choice whether or not they actually pay attention to him. People will eventually grow tired of reading his foolish rants which is too bad for him because he may actually write something someday that shows signs of intelligence.

Neo Conservative said...

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"paul said... it's difficult to ascertain if he's really a mental midget or just playing the part of one"

paul... it's also irrelevant.

this is the guy who, besides all of his daily garbled, offensive invective towards bt'ers... shit on the grieving mother of a dead canadian soldier.

in addition, he then calls the cops to file a complaint against another blogger.

i also choose to blog pseudonymously, but that doesn't mean i'm not responsible for what i write.

i say let him fry

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Anonymous said...

Whoever outs him is asking for a heap load of legal trouble. His remarks were in poor taste, but outing him could be legally actionable.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon said... outing him could be legally actionable."

i love it... who gave you your law degree... robert over at myblahg?

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Anonymous said...

Shit on policy, shit on political ideology, platforms, programs, speeches, slogans, even politicians, who have made the conscious choice to be in public service. But the grieving mother of a young Canadian soldier killed in the performance of his duty. I think not.

gerry said...

He outed himself by going to the police. Whoever he filed the complaint against has his name and therefore can reveal it. CC is an example of a coward pure and simple brave behind the you don't know who I am but shivering with fear behind being exposed.
As far as being anonymous goes when people post, that also shows cowardice because if they really believe in what the post about than they should never hesitate to identify themselves.

Anonymous said...

TangoJuliette sez:

Out him. Post his name, picture, address, car lic. plate numbers,place of employment. CC surrendered his[her] [it's] rights to anonymity the moment he moment he intemperately unloaded on a grieving mother. He's a verbal thug, hiding behind the anonymity which empowers him to practice his cowardly hit and run attacks on the most vulnerable. He's one thug I'd just love to hug - then I'd intrduce him to the Killer Kowalski Claw of Death.

Please. Do not mollycoddle this lickspittle twinkwankster.respect his privacy to the extent that he has respected the privacy of the grief-stricken, bereaved mother. As well, please respect his privacy with an equal and commensurate degree of compassion and civility, along the lines of his sterling examples. Sounds fair to me.

Maybe the soldier who lost his life might just have some relatives and friendswho might want to get up close and personal with CC, if only just to see what he[she][it] is really made of.

I suspect that CC doesn't really have what it takes to carry out the most menial of tasks for anyone in our modern-day military. I certainly would NOT even trust him to carry my mouldering pair of two-day old combat socks.

tj

t. e. & o. e.

Lemon said...

I have ignored him, simply deleted every comment and link he's made and he's disappeared.
A prosecutor would laugh at this case. He's a kid - and has a little posse of other kids who all do the same thing...
He provokes response with outrageously insulting (he liked calling one of my guests an old c***) and disturbing remarks, and then wants to lay charges when someone responds?
Please.

Joanne (True Blue) said...

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

Neo Conservative said...

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"gerry said... As far as being anonymous goes when people post, that also shows cowardice"

tell that to lars vilks.

you emote... you takes you chances

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Matt said...
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Matt said...

He wants Stephen Taylor to kick any BT who advocates for identifying anonymous writers off the blogroll. I can't help but think that's a double standard. Shouldn't cc afford other bloggers the same freedom of speech he has been using to offend so many people?

People out criminals for a reason, and they'll out anonymous douchebags with blogs too. dig your own grave, reap what you sow, yada yada.

Red Tory said...

The fact that most of you don’t have a fraction of the wit, acumen and political savvy that CC has, explains volumes about the tiresome moping of this dreary circle jerk.

Anonymous said...

Maybe so Marty. But your circle of jerks is much wider.

Neo Conservative said...

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"the curiously named red tory cries... a fraction of the wit, acumen and political savvy that CC"

so red, uh... i mean martin - you've decided to thrown in with the wise, witty and politically savvy "fuck you wanda watkins" camp?

can't say i'm really surprised. it was pretty apparent you always had it in you.

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Anonymous said...

Anyone else notice the delicious hypocrisy in the fact that 99% of cc's posts and insults are only thrown at those who use their full name. He/she/it delights in lambasting anyone who is brave enough to use their full name.
Out this prick.

Richard said...

He outed himself by going to the police. Whoever he filed the complaint against has his name and therefore can reveal it.

I'd wager that he hasn't gone to the police at all. He knows that if he did file a complaint, that the person being complained against would get his name as a result (pending charges).

Ti-Guy said...

The fact that most of you don’t have a fraction of the wit, acumen and political savvy that CC has, explains volumes about the tiresome moping of this dreary circle jerk.

Amen to that. It's been a while since I've seen such a concentration of third-tier minds than in this comment section....myself and certain other company excluded, naturally.

And TangoJuliette...still haven't shaken that nasty crack habit, I see.

Neo Conservative said...

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"ti-guy said... a concentration of third-tier minds"

that's kinda disappointing... 'ti-guy', like his life partner 'canadian cynic', is a little more folksy at 4 in the morning...

"Hey Stalker? Suck my fat cock. :)"

Posted by Ti-Guy to halls of macadamia at 4:49 AM, August 19, 2007

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Neo Conservative said...

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"richard said... he hasn't gone to the police at all"

of course he hasn't... unless cc's in the witness protection program... what law was broken here?

i wonder if cc's started wearing disguises to fool the assassins?

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Anonymous said...

If CC can find the courage to say the things he says to people's faces or with a public image, than so be it. If he can find the stones to belittle and mock the grief of mother whose son died in service to our country to her face rather than cowering anonymously behind his keyboard, then he is due at least that much respect for standing on what he says.

However, CC is demonstrably a coward, and this would never happen.

Anonymous said...

Through sources that shall remain secret, I have managed to extricate Martin's pre plastic surgery/witness protection original photograph. The resemblance is striking, no?

http://www.ideaphotos.com/Video-Clips-Slide-Shows/Funny-White-Gorrila-Smiling.jpg

Anonymous said...

Ahh. There we go.

http://www.ideaphotos.com/Video-Clips-Slide-
Shows/Funny-White-Gorrila-Smiling.jpg

Ti-Guy said...

that's kinda disappointing... 'ti-guy', like his life partner 'canadian cynic', is a little more folksy at 4 in the morning...

Suck it hard, stalker.

Crabgräss said...
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Crabgräss said...

I understand you taking exception to what CC said.

However, given my reading of your political leaning, I have to ask how you regard Ann Coulter's treatment of the group she calls the "Jersey Girls"? Do you find it equally despicable? "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much", she said. "How do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies?" She's talking about women who lost their husbands in the 9/11 attacks.

Had Coulter been a blogger under a pseudonym at the time she said those things, would you have campaigned to "out" her? What if the mother or wife of a fallen Canadian soldier were rallying against the mission in Afghanistan and Stephen Harper’s approach generally, and someone were to say to her "How do we know he wasn't about to leave home anyway, to get as far away as humanly possible from that hell hole you call a home"? How would that sit with you? Would you make a distinction between something like that and what Coulter said? If cc had not used a phrase like "fuck you", would that have softened it sufficiently to make it comparable to the sort of thing that Ann Coulter in fact makes her bread and butter on?

Maybe you've never heard of Ann Coulter and have no idea what I'm on about, or you think that Ann Coulter is a hideous personality and a hateful thing, an opportunistic bigot who could vastly improve the planet by shutting up immediately and promising to never ever speak up again (and keeping that promise). If either of those is true, we’re done and I have no point to make here. But if not, how do you reconcile acceptance (or, God forbid, enjoyment) of her schtick with condemnation of CC’s dialogue?

Neo Conservative said...

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"crabgrass said... I have to ask how you regard Ann Coulter's treatment"

uh, crabby... this isn't about ann coulter, or adolf hitler, or the dalai lama.

it's about this...

"With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief. It's not the job of the rest of Canada to continue to let its soldiers die just so you can sleep better at night."

lemme hear your defence of that... instead of some argle-bargle about who's really a bad person.

or maybe you simply agree with uber-intellectual and noted cc apologist ti-guy, above?

please... help me out here.

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Jeff Davidson said...

comments huh? enjoying your 15 seconds of fame?

let's out your ass and see how the light of day shines on your thin skin....

i think it's cute how you've dropped your caps in comments. a kind of tribute to me no doubt?

ps.. it's spelled jeffie , not jeffy.

such subtleties are lost are dicks like you.

Neo Conservative said...

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"jeffy bugboy said proudly... a kind of tribute to me no doubt?"

oh jeffy... i owe it all to you.

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Crabgräss said...

Neo: "this isn't about ann coulter, or adolf hitler..."

Well, if you place those two side by side, we may have more in common than I would have guessed.

To answer your question (and I hope you'll extend me the same courtesy) I usually do agree with CC. It doesn't mean I express myself the same way, in fact I obviously don't - I'm delicate as hell. But he certainly does not offend me.

Neo Conservative said...

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"crabgrass said... I usually do agree with CC"

so crabby... tell me how you would delicately say, "With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief."

more to the point, my friend... tell me WHY you would say it.

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Crabgräss said...

I would say it this way:

"While the loss of your son is ahorrible thing, and each of us hope to God that we never have to suffer through anything like what you must be going through, I would argue that your son's death was the product of an ill-conceived extension of a mission that was of questionable virtue from the start and is now looking like an unmitigated disaster. Rather than "staying the course", maybe we should re-evaluate this mission. Maybe this was a mistake. If that is true, let us admit it now rather than casting more lives (and without doubt, grieving families like your own) into it. To say that we must stay the course lest the deaths that we have suffered thus far become meaningless is, in my view, grossly misguided."

etcetera...

Do you feel better about that message?

Now, on to Ann Coulter. I'm just looking for a little consistency here. She is Satan, right?

Anonymous said...

Crabgrass just curious but why didn't you mention that to cc? It would have been so easy. Unlike Ann Coulter who has more than enough on her plate, as it were, and doesn't have a "comment section" you have direct and unfettered access to cc. Ahh yes, but he doesn't offend you so why would you.
Next.

Anonymous said...

Second question for Crabgrass: If what CC said doesn't offend you, why wouldn't you say what he said? The inconsistencies here need some clarification.

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"anon said... outing him could be legally actionable."

i love it... who gave you your law degree... robert over at myblahg?

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neo, you're an arrogant ass, kindly go take a flying f*ck at the moon.

I think you'd have a hard time convincing me that he couldn't take legal action against someone who publishes his name/address/particulars when said publishing is followed by vandalism and threats to his person...which is precisely the INTENT of the publishing, as it is very clearly recorded here.

If everyone was going to retaliate, they should not have written all of the stupid crap on this blog. Welcome to provable intent, dickwad. All it takes is for some numbnuts to do something and everyone here is a suspect.

Crabgräss said...

Anon, are you asking why I didn't rewrite his post in my own words and suggest that he use my version instead of his? For one, I'm not presumptuous enough to suppose that I've exactly communicated what CC was getting at, and more to the point he had not requested an edit. Anyway, when was the last time that somebody said something that you essentially agree with, where you felt the need to tell them that you would put it differently?

I would argue that it's apparent Ann Coulter very seldom has enough on her plate, by the way.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon said... I think you'd have a hard time convincing me"

sounds like i'd have a hard time convincing you that scary stephen harper isn't planning to round up all the lesbians, tattoo numbers on them and ship them to a gulag on ellesmere island.

you just sit there and muck about in your little pool of willful ignorance.

i expect no less.

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Anonymous said...

"Anyway, when was the last time that somebody said something that you essentially agree with, where you felt the need to tell them that you would put it differently?"

This very thing happened with a good friend of mine. He and his wife were consistently getting into verbal scrums because of the way he told her of his anger. I suggested that he try a less confrontational approach. It seems to have worked wonders. As an added bonus, I saved him thousands of dollars in potential counselling and legal bills. That's what true friends do for one another.

Neo Conservative said...

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"crabby said... Do you feel better about that message?"

nope. but i bet you wouldn't even say that watered down version to wanda watkins face, would you?

despite that, you don't have a problem throwing in with the wise, witty and politically savvy "fuck you wanda watkins" camp?

you sure you wanna die on that philosophical hill?

and ann coulter? you're gonna be disappointed... she isn't even on my radar. i think i've seen a book she's written on a shelf at chapters, but i haven't got around to knowing anything about her.

sorry.

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Crabgräss said...

I'm actually glad to hear that Ann Coulter isn't on your radar. It would be a better place if she weren't on anyone's. I only mentioned her because it seems to me that a great many people on the right who talk longingly of civil discourse don't go to great lengths to distance themselves from her. But ignoring her is probably even better.

I wouldn't feel badly saying to Wanda Watkins what I wrote above.

Did you follow that whole thread, by the way? I was away on vacation for almost 3 weeks, and didn't really ever catch up on it. Didn't the two of them have a more congenial exchange following that initial post? I may be misremembering or thinking of another situation. If what I think I'm remembering is in fact correct, it would be only fair for you to include something about it here. Probably I'm confusing it with another episode somewhere else.

Anon, though I think you may have made that story up, it has an air of plausibility and is a fair suggestion in any event. If I were closer to CC, maybe knew him personally, I suppose I could have suggested that a softer tone might win him more support, but that not being the case, I think it would have been presumptuous of me.

Neo Conservative said...

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"crabby said... Didn't the two of them have a more congenial exchange"

yeah... cc spat in her face, pissed on her dead son's grave... but now they're best friends... you know, just like an episode of "will & grace."

is that how it works over there in fuzzy-bunny land?

yeah... why don't we just say that's what happened?

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Crabgräss said...

Well, did they? If not, just say so.

Crabgräss said...

For example, you might say, "No, you must have been thinking of another post".

Or, "Not to my knowledge. Perhaps you were misremembering, as you feared".

Crabgräss said...
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Crabgräss said...

Neo, why the f*ck don't you do a little more homework? Did you even try? It took me about 10 or 12 seconds to find this.

Anyway, I thought you might want to update your post with it in order to demonstrate a little more balance on this.

You know, that sort of laziness, especially when I specifically asked about a subsequent exchange related to the initial post is pathetic. It almost looks willful.

Neo Conservative said...

"Crabby said...Did you even try? It took me about 10 or 12 seconds to find this."

that link is dead... maybe you, uh... made a mistake? try taking another 10 seconds... the average attention span of the fuzzy-bunny left, i'd say.

here's the only reference I found and it's sure not lane watkins mother, wanda... bestowing forgiveness on cc.

"some recent comments from a "Monica" who claims to be a cousin of the aforementioned Ms. Watkins

how about a quote from someone "claiming to be" princess anastasia?

thanks for playing, though.

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Crabgräss said...

The link is working for me. I'm not sure why it's giving you trouble. Try copy & paste with this, maybe.

http://%20canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2007/07/say-hello-to-monica.html

Hope that works...

I'm not sure I understand the fuzzy bunny reference, by the way. What does it mean? Is there a counterpart on the right to the left's fuzzy bunny?

Neo Conservative said...

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"crabby said... the link is working for me"

your link still doesn't work for me, but it seems to refer to a monica, the alleged cousin of lane watkins mother.

it is most definitely not any sort of personal reconciliation and forgiveness of cc, by a grieving mother.

"fuzzy bunny reference, is there a counterpart on the right to the left's fuzzy bunny?"

hmmm... lucid realist?

hey... you asked.

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Richard said...

I think you'd have a hard time convincing me that he couldn't take legal action against someone who publishes his name/address/particulars when said publishing is followed by vandalism and threats to his person...which is precisely the INTENT of the publishing, as it is very clearly recorded here.

I missed that part. Who said anything about "vandalism and threats"?

Neo Conservative said...

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"richard said... I missed that part. Who said anything about "vandalism and threats"?"

some dopey leftbot who's been watching too much "judge judy" is my guess.

evil, convoluted plots are the lunatic left's oxygen.

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