23 February 2008

Michelle Obama's Ivory Tower

Is this what all the secrecy was about?

To research her thesis, the future Mrs. Obama sent an 18-question survey to a sampling of 400 black Princeton graduates, requesting the respondents define the amount of time and "comfort" level spent interacting with blacks and whites before they attended the school, as well as during and after their University years.
Politico has the whole thesis.

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RELATED: Liar, liar
OBAMA: You know, I’ve heard from an Army captain who was the head of a rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been sent to Iraq.
Yeah, sure... that could happen, huh?

Just to be sure though... let's ask an actual soldier...
He is either so full of it or he’s not smart enough to question a bogus story. I was a Captain in the USMC and a combat vet.

First off, Captains are not in charge of “platoons”, Lieutenants are. Captains are in command of a Company. Three platoons make up a company.

Secondly, I have no idea how a unit that size would be “chopped” and redirected to another country while sending another part to a different country. Personnel are not commodities in the way he refers to them.
(h/t ffof)

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FROM THE COMMENTS:
"Nope, I am afraid that unfortunately for Mr. Tapper and indirectly Mr. Obama this story is so much Bunkum."

H. Evers
LTC Armor (ret)
1975 to 2005
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LAST WORD: The Wonderful World of Obama

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5 comments:

Red Tory said...

I guess now that Obama's story has checked out, you'll be issuing a retraction for calling him a liar. Right?

Neo Conservative said...

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infamous cc licker red tory is up on his high horse yet again.

"Same thing here, it seems. Obama spins out a ludicrous exaggeration, some claims are found to support (if you credit the claim) a much more plausible version of the claims he made, which are as far from the original as the lightning bug is from the lightning, and... we're wrong, we need to apologize."

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kilgore said...

In December of 2003 the time in question there were 83 KIAs in Iraq and 6 KIAs in Afghanistan. Up-Armored HMMWV and other vehicles were not introduced into the theater by the Army in any numbers until 2004.

I point this out because I find it difficult to believe that the “Captain” is correct in his assertions. I do not believe that the officer is lying but rather because of inexperience and a limited field of view he has misinterpreted what actually happened.

In particular I find it hard to believe that 10 or 15 of his personnel would have been detached for duty in Iraq just prior to his deployment. That some might have rotated normally that I can believe. That some were cross-leveled within the division is also possible but not that 15 EMs were rounded up and sent to the 101st or 82d or the 173d (the only units in Iraq that had light infantry).

Why, well because all of those units were getting ready to come home and be replaced by other units like the 10th Mtn. Div.

Nope, does not pass the make sense test.

I am also surprised that his unit had any vehicles much less two/three armored HMMWV. Up-Armored vehicles did not start moving into theater in any numbers until 2004.

There were a few running around but mostly in Iraq. That is where the casuality figures come in. Afghanistan was just not that dangerous during the time the Officer X was deployed there. I am not sure how many enemy weapons Officer X used but with limited combat opportunities I doubt if it was many.

Nope, I am afraid that unfortunately for Mr. Tapper and indirectly Mr. Obama this story is so much Bunkum.


H. Evers
LTC Armor (ret)
1975 to 2005

KEvron said...

the marines promote from within, neo-cunt....

KEvron

Neo Conservative said...

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kevron... if you imagine for even a second that wiping your own shit all over the walls here... does anything more than expose your apparent lack of purpose and communication skills, you are sadly mistaken.

i could simply act as most of your progressive pals would do... and delete this nonsense as it comes in, but hey little boy, knock yourself out... you underline every point i have ever made about the lost, illiterate left.

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