17 March 2009

Okay...

Now that that's outta the way... can we ask Mohamed Elmasry about pushing Jews into the sea?

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8 comments:

langmann said...

What a media concocted ambush that was. Considering the president of the National Sciences and Engineering Research Council Canada (the government agency that supports natural sciences and innovation) said "It has been a real pleasure for us to work with the Hon. Gary Goodyear." Instead why does the globe and pail go to the silly union of university professors as a source? Obviously they are trying to concoct a story similar to the Stockwell Day 10000 year old earth debacle.

Anyway Goodyear does indeed "believe" in evolution, so are those silly professors going to retract their statements with an apology? Moreover as a scientist myself I would like to point out to the ignorant media that evolution is not a belief but a scientific theory which has withstood not only the test of time but continually has new supporting evidence. Religion is a belief, science in the modern age is based on theory and evidence.

(ironically the word verification thing in your comment section requested me to type in the word "in god". I guess I am doomed.)

OTTAWA — Canada's Science Minister has cut short a brewing controversy over his views on evolution.

Gary Goodyear raised eyebrows when he refused to tell The Globe and Mail newspaper if he believes in the science of evolution.

But the Minister of State for Science and Technology flatly said today that he does indeed believe in evolution.

Mr. Goodyear said he refused to answer Tthe Globe question because it was “irrelevant” and his beliefs have nothing to do with government policy.

A spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper stressed that creationism is not part of the federal science agenda.

Neo Conservative said...

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well... what's sauce for the goose, ya know...

let's go after roman catholic premier dalton mcslippery about the free abortions his government provides to all ontario women.

back when i was still rc, that used to be called "mortal sin".

shssssh...

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Philanthropist said...

God created evolution. Done.

No one has to believe that, and the religious can believe it's part of 'God's plan'.

Neo Conservative said...

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works for me.

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langmann said...

Just note that your the word verification thing in your comment section requested me to type in the word "in god". It's like it knows...

Scary Fundamentalist said...

Langmann:

"Moreover as a scientist myself I would like to point out to the ignorant media that evolution is not a belief but a scientific theory..."

A belief is a subjective held by scientists is still a belief. Don't think that just because you're a scientists then your beliefs become "scientific theory" and therefore fact.

Your beliefs certainly become stronger and more plausible to others by evidence - and nobody is more qualified to gather and interpret evidence than scientists. But don't think for a minute that scientists are immune to projecting their beliefs on their evidence.

So yes, evolution is a belief and not a fact. Same as Newtonian physics which withstood rigorous testing and was accepted as unquestioned fact for many years.

(P.S. My credentials aren't eye-popping but I do count myself a scientist too)

Neo Conservative said...

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"scary fundamentalist says... So yes, evolution is a belief and not a fact."

cards on the table, friend... is there ANY amount of evidence that would cause you to shift your faith-based position?

i think that's the actual difference between the two sides here.

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langmann said...

I think neo, we are about to find out the difference between belief and theory when this fellow tries to prove there is a God.

Sorry friend fundamentalist, but I disagree with you. The proper terminology for scientific thought is theory. Check Websters for example for the nuances behind the English of both words.

Let's use proper terminology. Evolution is a theory. It has a lot of excellent evidence supporting it from a multitude science. God is a belief, which at the moment has no objective evidence behind it. I'm not saying there is no God. I'm just saying that Minister Goodyear was absolutely correct in everything he said to the Globe and Mail regarding both science and belief, God etc.

When the media tries to make the two meet we get ambush style questions like what they tried to do to Goodyear.

Also we get poor science such as Global Warming turned into a belief system with those who disagree treated much like Copernicus.