11 November 2008

November 11th is a special day...

...for some of us...

When the mother of Lane Watkins, a young Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan, commented on her terrible loss... "They deserve your respect. In supporting them, you'll make our loss much easier to bear"... guess which Canadian Blogger had to go out of his way to spit in her face.

"With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief. It's not the job of the rest of Canada to continue to let its soldiers die just so you can sleep better at night.

At this point, I don't give a rat's ass about making you feel better for your loss now that I know that the price is other peoples' lives.

Fuck you and the politically-motivated, neo-con propaganda train you rode in on.
Rise up lefties... and celebrate your shining Prophet.

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37 comments:

Wonder Woman said...

Classy. With a capital A-S-S

Neo Conservative said...

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antonia zerbisias from the toronto "red" star... says cc is her favourite blogger.

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Jeff Davidson said...

We can disagree about the best ways to keep the peace but there should be no disagreement when it comes to honouring those who fell in service of their country.

Being someone you would describe as a "lefty" but also a Canadian who lost family in both world wars, I appreciate the solemnity of November 11th as well as any of your more conservative readers.

In fact, I'll be attending a local Remembrance Day service later this morning. Today isn't about partisanship, it's about respect.

Neo Conservative said...

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"jeff says... there should be no disagreement when it comes to honouring those who fell in service of their country."

disagreement, jeff? seriously?

spoken like a true leftbot. you can't even bring yourself to repudiate cc's despicable spew?

canadian cynic pisses all over the mother of a dead canadian soldier... and all you have... is criticism of my "partisanship"?

and finally, jeff.... speaking of the war dead you are honouring today... what do you think they would have to say?

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Jeff Davidson said...

I was trying to suggest that the solemnity of November 11th should be observed by all. I wasn't actually commenting on any particular partisanship on your part.

To answer your question...

I think that those we honour today would hope that we could find a way to understand our differences
without lashing out at one another.Please consider that a direct criticism of and comment on C.C.'s approach to diplomacy.

It may not win me many friends but more and more I believe that the blogosphere continues to poison itself with the senseless name-calling coming from all sides. C.C.'s style tends to grate on me and I think his points are often lost in the predictable rhetoric.

To be more specific, the comments (his) in question in your post are offensive to me.

I rarely post on my blog anymore. This whole left versus right crap diminishes us all. Personally, I'm a fiscal conservative but tend to have more left-leaning social views. That being said, my secret inner-conservative is continually at odds with my progressive self...my pre-teen daughter can attest to that.

We should spend more time understanding our common ground. I'm sure those we honour today would approve.

Neo Conservative said...

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"jeff says... C.C.'s style tends to grate"

so, jeff... just to be clear... when canadian cynic tells the grieving mother of a canadian soldier... "With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief"... you find that, what... grates a little?"

you are a cowardly weasel, jeff... and i'm sure my wife's grandfather, whom WE are honouring today... would look you and cc straight in the eye and tell you as much.

i suspect your own grandfather would be similarly disgusted with your mealy-mouthed stand.

perhaps that is the real reason you "rarely post on your blog anymore"... because nobody wants to be bothered with your uber-socialist tripe.

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Neo Conservative said...

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"jeffy pompously intones... understand our differences
without lashing out at one another"


you're also the biggest hypocrite i know...

"neoconservative's UI runs out and he's forced to go back to ditch digging. one less asshole to hear from.
happy new year prick.
Posted by Jeff Davidson to halls of macadamia at 1:22 AM, January 01, 2008


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Jeff Davidson said...

well Neo, twist it up to suit your purpose if you like.

I think C.C.'s dismissal of Wanda's grief is offensive. I've already said that.

You're clearly only interested in division. Your personal war on lefties may drive blog traffic but it lacks substance.

To neatly divide people into 2 groups, those who think exactly like you and everyone else, is the easy way out.

Your characterization of me as a
"cowardly weasel" is rather predictable and painfully ironic.

And while we're discussing cowardice, you reckon your wife's grandfather would be proud that his granddaughter's husband hides behind an alias while dismissing another's desire to respect the solemnity of his sacrifice?

As for my grandfather,he always taught me to put my money where my mouth is. That's a lesson you might be interested in Neo.

Rather than pursuing an endless series of insults, I'll say "so long" for now.

I may not respect much of what you have to say but I remain committed to your right to say it.

Jeff Davidson said...

"neoconservative's UI runs out and he's forced to go back to ditch digging. one less asshole to hear from.
happy new year prick.


I'll respond to that. In hindsight, I regret leaving that comment. For what it's worth, I apologize. It was tasteless and mean-spirited.

Neo Conservative said...

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"jeff says... As for my grandfather, he always taught me to put my money where my mouth is."

but jeff... do you think your grandfather would say he found cc "grating", or merely "offensive"... or would he want to kick his cowardly, unpatriotic, misogynistic ass all the way down the street?

just askin'.

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Joanne (True Blue) said...

Personally, I've seen Jeff mellowing a bit, and I think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Anonymous said...

Wanda Watkins is no different from the WWI era women who would hand out white feathers to any male they deemed to be of military age.

Using war and death to support a political position.

CC's only error was in not clearly referring to Wanda Watkins and her public grief expressed as demands that more people die so she would feel better.

I support the war in Afghanistan. I think we should have stood by the US and gone into Iraq. But I do not support our current government. Neither would those of my family who served in past wars.

Wanda Watkins turned herself into a shill for the government of the day, and in doing so lost my respect.

Neo Conservative said...

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"nonny says... sing war and death to support a political position."

she's a grieving mother, asshole.

you're the one who has a political agenda and a tin ear.

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Dennis said...

Hey, Neo, you and I are usually on the same page but I gotta ask you... did you really have to pick today to reprint that garbage?

Seriously, man, what were you thinking?

Neo Conservative said...

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sorry, dennis... this is precisely the day to remind people that there are despicable people like the cynic lurking among us.

did you also email ezra to chide him about his writing about the chrc today?

you may just want to put this out of mind... i choose to remember.

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Anonymous said...

No neo, you are the asshole pushing your far right extremist agenda on today of all days.

Then you insult my family. But they fought so you would have the right to push your fascist views. They fought so I can call you on it, even if you choose to promote you views on the bodies of our brave fallen soldiers.

Be glad they also taught me to be restrained with despicable extremists like yourself.

Grieving mothers should not shill for the government. Most do not.

Men who understand war should remember, and honour the dead today. Not shill for the government. You do. You are a panderer. You try to manipulate peoples' emotions. You try to gain support for your chosen political party though this kind of demagogery. Not by reason.

Disgusting.

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous says... Then you insult my family.

nice try, cc... you're the one who puts his family squarely behind lucy warman and the chrc.

and as for your "reason" and being "restrained with despicable extremists"... i submit you still have a tiny ways to go...

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Anonymous said...

nice try, cc... you're the one who puts his family squarely behind lucy warman and the chrc.
I am not cc. Your hate blinds you to this fact.

I support human rights. So does everyone in my family. Apparently you do not. Only spewers of hate need worry about HRCs. Like anything else, such as the courts, they can always be improved. But you want to abolish one and not the other.

You prefer the government itself to be the arbiter, such as the CPC's arts censor board. I am sure you would prefer the court system become a government department as well, then eventually you can execute those who oppose you with impunity. If you can track them, that is.

and as for your "reason" and being "restrained with despicable extremists"... i submit you still have a tiny ways to go...
Restraint means not taking this into the physical world. Unlike folks like yourself who try and track people for just that purpose. My brake lines remain unsevered. My body remains bullet free.

mahmood said...

Good Lord neo...keep the porch light on tonite...yeeeesh.

Neo Conservative said...

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"mahmood says... Good Lord neo...keep the porch light on tonite"

well... the thing is... nothing can really top his previous offerings...

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"Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
You are cornholed. You are cumstained.

Posted by anon to halls of macadamia at 11:26 PM, October 20, 2008"


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it's obvious that cc's high-water mark was going after the grieving mother of a slain canadian soldier.

what he doesn't seem to understand... is that no amount of pottymouth heckling is ever gonna make that right.

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Anonymous said...

Don't know who posted that, it wasn't me. It had the haha's at the top and I never swear in that way.
Maybe it was cc, but it was not me.

But to use a grieving mother to aid your politicizing of a war for petty partisan ends is truly disgusting. Why you don't understand that, I don't know.

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous says... to use a grieving mother to aid your politicizing"

of course... that must have been some other anonymous pottymouth. hey, if i let you go... are you gonna find the real cc-nonymous?

and not a single word about pissing all over the grieving mother of a slain soldier... way to stay on message, scooby... that's the real spirit of remembrance day.

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Anonymous said...

hey, if i let you go... are you gonna find the real cc-nonymous?
Oh sheesh, another sniggering response. I am still not cc. You are not holding me, since you can't find me.

pissing all over the grieving mother of a slain soldier
The grieving mother was being used as a poster child for a war by the politicians. I hardly think someone rebuking her for participating in that can come remotely close to the agony of losing her son. But our government, trying to gain their majority by calling anyone a traitor who does not support them completely, used her.

She was used. Her sorrow was abused by our political leaders.

Neo Conservative said...

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pissing all over the grieving mother of a slain soldier... you said it, you have to wear it.

c'mon... wear it proudly, scummer.

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Anonymous said...

The grieving mother was shat on by Stephen Harper's government when they used her to demand Canadians support their mismanagement of this war.

That she went along with it earns only contempt.

She wants others to die so she'll feel better. That's not a good enough reason.

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous shrieks... She wants others to die so she'll feel better."

and yet again... more vicious bile... you just can't stop yourself, can you?

c'mon cc... get it all out.

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Anonymous said...

I am not cc. Your fixation is silly. Perhaps a product of the same inability to see things that feeds your hate.

You are the one filled with bile and hate neo. You release it daily on your blog.


And Wanda was a tool of the government of the day to bludgeon political opposition. I sympathize with her loss, I am sure it is the same as my relatives who lost sons. She should not have demanded that the war be about making her feel better about her loss. We can only console, our foreign policy should not be about making her feel better.


There was an article in the Sun days before Remembrance Day about George Lawrence Price, the last soldier killed in WWI, two minutes before the Armistice came into effect. What do you think his mother thought about that? Did she get many more people being killed so she would feel better? What was done to soften the blow of losing her son, after the Armistice was signed, but TWO MINUTES before the official end of the war.

War is hell, and for Wanda to demand more war, just so she feels better, is contemptible.

You are also contemptible for your demagogic abuse of this woman's grief for you petty partisan ends.

Disgusting.

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous screams again... for Wanda to demand more war"

and yet again... continually trying to justify the indefensible.

forget about the taliban, huh... you've found the real enemy.

c'mon cc... go, go, go...

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Anonymous said...

I think the only pissing going on is this pissing contest you insist on maintaining.

I continue to be not cc, and I will continue to say so whenever you repeat your error, if you are addressing one of my comments.

and yet again... continually trying to justify the indefensible.
No, I am continually repeating the same argument, which you continue to choose to piss on. I don't think you will ever get it, you are too busy trying to play your emotion cards, to make a woman calling for more deaths to make her feel better into some saint who must not be criticized.

forget about the taliban, huh... you've found the real enemy.
Why forget the taliban? Are we not fighting them? Do you not support the troops? I do. But I do not support our current government's mismanagement of this war, and I am disgusted when they use a grieving mother of a slain soldier for their petty partisan ends, just as I am disgusted when you do.

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous whinges... this pissing contest you insist on maintaining."

oh nonny, i know, i know... if only i could stop trolling your blog and constantly yanking at your coat-tails and leaving all those obscene comments... hey, wait a minute...

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mahmood said...

So W.Watkin's is to blame for the Cesspool boy's insane/profane assault?...the boy's Mother must be sooo proud.

Anonymous said...

I continue to be not cc.

You continue the pissing contest by saying that I am. I am not.

What is funny is every one of your comments is either a channel change attempt by misstating my clear statements, or claiming that my view is shameful or otherwise bad.

What you (and now "mahmood") fail to do is address the substance of my defense of cc's statements.

Case in point:
So W.Watkin's is to blame for the Cesspool boy's insane/profane assault?...the boy's Mother must be sooo proud.

Nobody blames Wanda for anything. She is criticized for using her time of grieving with a microphone in front of her to demand support for the current government's policies, and demanding that the war continue so she feels better.


I probably wouldn't have said the same things in the same way, but only because my defenses against vigilantes finding me and my location are less "bulletproof". I fully support the sentiment that Wanda should not have been used as a tool of the government to garner support for their policies.

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous cries... Nobody blames Wanda for anything."

that's funny...

"Using war and death to support a political position
1:24 PM, November 11, 2008"


and...

"shill for the government
4:22 PM, November 11, 2008"


and...

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous hurls... She wants others to die so she'll feel better.
12:41 AM, November 12, 2008"


sorry, dickhead... you said it, you have to wear it.

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Anonymous said...

Wow, two comments, continuing the "cc" error. Upping the amperage again. Should I point out twice that I am not cc?

Nobody blames Wanda for anything.
Said in response to "mahmood" claiming Wanda is to blame for cc's words. mahmood tries to change the channel as if Wanda is a victim and she is being blamed. Just the usual right wing word games. Not going to work.

Wanda was used to support the policies of the government of the day. She demanded the war to continue so she'll feel better about her son being killed.

sorry
Apology accepted. Don't like your words taken out of context? Then stop doing that to me.

, dickhead...
Yes you are.

you said it, you have to wear it.

Where am I saying I did not say what I said? I am not cc so I did not say his words. But I support what he said, and have said so.
You are trying to insinuate I am not standing by my words.

There is nothing to wear. You think you are shaming me for having a certain opinion, but I am not ashamed at all. Therefore there is nothing to "wear".

Wanda was used. Wanda called for more soldiers to die so she would feel better. She earned contempt for that. And so have you for trying to shame anyone that calls her on it.

How much more bile do you intend to spew on this?

mahmood said...

Cesspool boy's diatribe has included executing people, unsevered brake lines, a bullet free body, W.Watkin's need for other people to die and it's W.Watkin's fault that he spewed an insane/profane assault upon this lady...clearly dementia has taken root in the boy's bonehead...scary stuff really.

Neo Conservative said...

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"cc-nonymous shrieks... Wanda called for more soldiers to die so she would feel better. She earned contempt for that."

well, you cynical pottymouthed whiner... she certainly earned your contempt, didn't she... ""With all due respect, Wanda, fuck you and your grief."

i guess it felt pretty "fellatiotastic" to pick on the "dumb cuntitude" yet again, huh?

what exactly is your major malfunction, anyway... mummy never loved you enough?

you need help, kiddo.

seriously.

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