04 August 2008

Dear Jaswinder...

You got way more than you had a right to expect here... and you still spat on it. Let's face it, in actual fact, this has nothing to do with Stephen Harper.

-- SURREY, B.C. -- Prime Minister Stephen Harper apologized Sunday for the 1914 Komogata Maru incident in which hundreds of Indians seeking a better life in Canada were turned away.
See, Jas... I think you're a little confused. If you've got any sort of a beef here... you should take it up with Prime Minister Robert Borden.

Now admittedly, that won't be easy... as he died 71 years ago, in 1937... but that, my friend, is precisely the point.

Truth be told, I'm still a little pissed at Sir Robert myself over that "temporary" Wartime Business Profits Tax he introduced in 1917... but then, I'm thinkin' we're all probably a little hacked off at that.

The thing is... in 1914... Stephen Harper's grandfather was probably running around in short pants and even he had no idea any of this was happening. But even that doesn't dent this stupid rock of contention, does it?
But as soon as he left the stage members of the Sikh community rushed to the podium immediately denouncing the apology. They said they wanted it delivered on the floor of the House of Commons.

"The apology was unacceptable," said Jaswinder Singh Toor, president of "The Descendents of Komagatamaru Society."
Well, guess what, my incredibly discourteous friend... you aren't in a position to tell the Prime Minister to floss more often... never mind how to apologise for a policy that was implemented before his father was born.

Now I know all this politically correct "apologies from the past" malarkey is in vogue nowadays... but you might just wanna stow your 92 year-old outrage and get on with your life.

'Cos like the wise man once said... "You can't always get what you want."

Even with Jack and Steffi on your side.

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FROM THE COMMENTS:
Dear Jaswinder,

If I may as the grandson of a "orphan immigrant" from Glasgow offer you some hard won advice.

My Grandfather was sent overseas from Scotland at the tender age of 9 with a tag on his coat button giving his particulars. He ended up on a farm at Portage La Prairie as cheap labour for a well-off farmer with 7 daughters and no sons. He was never to break bread with the family, he took his meals in the kitchen with the dog. The day he had enough, I think he was 12, he walked down to the dirt road in front of the farm and never looked back.

He never told us the name of those people, he eventually married had 10 children, 6 survived childhood, his 4 sons served overseas. He never complained, he just "got on with it."

There are incredible opportunities here Jaswinder, but in order to enjoy them you have to stop whining and do as my grandfather did, just get on with it sir, self respect and recognition and respect in the community will follow as it has for the majority of your community.

Cheers from a little orphans descendant.
And from a slightly different perspective...
"I am a Sikh in Alberta and never have even heard of this person. I was surprised to even hear of this apology but I do gratefully accept it."

"I am sure the vast majority of Sikhs in Canada do as well, irrespective of this so-called 'community leader's' comments."
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UPDATE: Oh crap... here we go again

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25 comments:

Rob C said...

This apology bu11$# it is becoming an embarrassment to Canadians .

Seachange said...

What is being apoligized for? Is there anyone that can explain the rationale of the day, almost 100 years ago? Was it well reasoned? Maybe it was, maybe not. Some that came after them chose to bomb a plane. What apologies are they seeking?

Raphael Alexander said...

It may not have anything to do with Harper, but he sure is busy apologizing for everything. Is he trying to steal the progressive thunder by one-upping them on minority sucking up?

Looks like it backfired.

Fred said...

Dear Jaswinder,

Blow me you ungrateful SOB.

We know you are just holding out for some cash.

Neo Conservative said...

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"raphael says... one-upping them on minority sucking up?"

i suppose harper and the conservatives may be trying to get out from under some of the outrageous fiberal propaganda trying to paint them as evil racists... but this would appear to be a watershed moment.

raffi... didn't you have some of the geo-political background of that particular time and locale in your post?

feel free to share some of that here.

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Anonymous said...

Dear Jaswinder;
If I may as the grandson of a "orphan immigrant" from Glasgow offer you some hard won advice. My Grandfather was sent overseas from Scotland at the tender age of 9 with a tag on his coat button giving his particulars. He ended up on a farm at Portage La Prairie as cheap labour for a well off farmer with 7 daughters and no sons. He was never to break bread with the family, he took his meals in the kitchen with the dog. The day he had enough , I think he was 12 he walked down to the dirt road in front of the farm and never looked back. He never told us the name of those people,, he eventually married had 10 children, 6 survived childhood,his 4 sons served overseas. He never complained, he just "got on with it" There are incredible opportunities here Jaswinder, but in order to enjoy them you have to stop whining and do as my grandfather did, just get on with it sir, self respect and recognition and respect in the community will follow as it has for the majority of your community.
Cheers from a little orphans descendant.

Anonymous said...

Jaswinder, wow, that was one classless display to snub an apology from this country's lead spokesman.

Good luck with that approach.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... as the grandson of a 'orphan immigrant'"

this is the spirit that made this country what it is today.

thank you for sharing this... comment added to main post

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John West said...

I demand an apology from all Italians for the Roman invasion of my ancestral homeland of Greece back in about 33 AD. And I want it on the floor of Canada's parliament.

Actually, the descendants of just about every race and color to shut the f**k up about their personal historical neurosis and get on with the here and now.

And to the outraged Sikh community in Surrey ... do something about your horrible skyrocketing crime rates before you get indignant about anything. Your community is an embarrassment to this province. A surrey used to be a nice little horse drawn passenger rig as in " Surrey with a fringe on the top" taking the ladies for a Sunday ride to the country fare, from the great musical Oklahoma. In BC a surrey looks more like a lowered BMW full of gang bangers and drug dealers.

Like most of the 'outraged' in Canada, your desire to have your idiotic apology make on the floor of parliament seems an effort to have some official reparations made to your community. I don't want to give you any of my money, so forget it. I work for my money, you can do the same.

And be happy your are no longer living that horrid overpopulated sweat-hole you came from. Or were you born here but still claim your homeland to be elsewhere?

I don't actually blame you folks for this stupidity on PM Harper's part. Stupid is as stupid does. He is the stupid in this case.

Many are now aware of Harper's defection to Liberalism. I guess we know what to expect from him going forward.

merritt salter said...

I suspect it's the prelude to a shakedown, or possibly this character is trying to raise his profile in the community for his own purposes. This could include, of course, running for the liberal party because he'll claim he can deliver that vote.

Neo Conservative said...

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"john west says... I demand an apology from all Italians for the Roman invasion"

well... i'm still waiting for prince charles to man up about the highland clearances.

any day now... i'm guessing.

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Apollyannogetic said...

I think the gay community should deserve an apology in the House of Commons for being denied the right to marry from the beginning of Confederation until just a few years ago.

Womyn deserve an apology for being denied the right to vote many years ago. Let's fix Canadian herstory.

Canada should apologize to the North Koreans for killing their soldiers during the Korean War.

Rose said...

Anon great story, sadly the moral traits that your ancestor had is verbally beaten out of our sons and daughters these days. The left replaced decency, ethics and morals with government departments who despense edicts on "Feelings".

Frankly if this snot and bawler is indicative to the Indo Community we might consider turning these ungrateful cry babies away from our shores again.

Harper I demand an apology from the Government, rival Tribal Clans in Cape Bretain use to raid neighbouring clans for wives. It kept the bloodlines clean, or so I'm told. When will you apologise for this traversty against Scotish Women Sir Harper.

Anonymous said...

I'm Jewish...there's not enough time in the day for everyone who has mistreated my ancestors to apologize..but I got a fair shake down here in the US, so I'm not complainin'

Anonymous said...

Now you don't suppose they are looking for some -umm-gasp-wait for it- C-a-s-h?

Naw, couldn't be.

We should be turning back many more.

Horny Toad

content canadian said...

Ukrainian here:

Soviets nationalized the farms,

six million starved to death, villagers forced to eat their neighbor's corpses for food,

my father who escaped that, never complained a day in his life.

He moved on, raised a wonderful family and his legacy remains in my children today.

Neo Conservative said...

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"content canadian says... Soviets nationalized the farms, six million starved to death"

amen.

i know a guy whose mom... after the russian armour started rolling into hungary... snuck him over the border one night... in her backpack.

i don't remember exactly how many weeks old he was at the time... but his family's still waiting for their apology too.

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Anonymous said...

All the kings horses and all the kings men should apologize to Humpty Dumpty for not being able to put him back together again.
And for having scrambled eggs for breakfast again.

Raphael Alexander said...

For those still reading this post from NEO, here's some relevant background information on our innocent boat people:

"Also from the beginning of the war, expatriate Indian population, notably in Germany, United States and Canada, headed by the Indian Independence Committee and the Ghadar Party respectively, attempted to trigger insurrections in India on the lines of the 1857 uprising with Irish Republican, German and Turkish help in a massive conspiracy that has since come to be called the Hindu German conspiracy. The conspiracy also made attempts to rally the Amir of Afghanistan against British India, starting a political process in that country that culminated three years later in the assassination of Amir Habibullah and precipitation of the Third Anglo-Afghan war."

The Indians of 1914 weren't a whole lot different from the ones who think Inderjit Singh Reyat is a hero today, or who hide people like Laibar Singh in their temple while he sucks the health care system dry. Make no mistake: the same community in Surrey today that rejected Harper's apology is just as bent on independence in Punjab as they were in 1914 when they tried to sneak into the dominion of Canada. Why do you think they were imprisoned and killed when they got back home? They were inciting a revolution in their country and were de facto terrorists.

Hoarfrost said...

"john west says... I demand an apology from all Italians for the Roman invasion"

My direct patrilineal heritage is Blue Blood Anglo-Saxon. I also have a whole bunch of other European and Middle Eastern blood in my bones too. (Even Irish).

My ancestors were deprived of their noble heritage during the Norman invasion. My ancestral lands were confiscated. My ancestors were bereft of substinance and starved of hunger and cold.

Modern Quebecers are decendents of those Normans. I expect my apology and compensation from Quebec

Neo Conservative said...

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it would seem poor jaswinder isn't as special... or unique... as he thinks.

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Anonymous said...

Jaswinder Singh Toor is no community leader. What the hell is a "community leader" anyways? I am a Sikh in Alberta and never have even heard of this person. I was surprised to even hear of this apology but I do gratefully accept it. I am sure the vast majority of Sikhs in Canada do as well, irrespective of this so-called "community leader's" comments.

Neo Conservative said...

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"anon says... I am a Sikh in Alberta..."

and what everyone needs to hear, my friend, are the voices of canadians like yourself... who chose not to feast on 92 year-old grievances... but are contributing to the future of this country.

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Anonymous said...

The chief source of happiness for some people consists entirely of making other people unhappy.

It is becoming a stereotype of some/many Cdns.

rockyt

Neo Conservative said...

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well, folks... get ready for round II...

Dear Jasbir, and yes, once again... Jaswinder...

p.s. - hey raffi... looks like the pm wasn't knuckling under after all.

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